1 00:00:10,310 --> 00:00:08,090 scientists tell us that the giant 2 00:00:13,400 --> 00:00:10,320 tsunami wave that devastated Southeast 3 00:00:17,210 --> 00:00:13,410 Asia in 2004 wasn't as big as we usually 4 00:00:20,300 --> 00:00:17,220 imagine it's not that they got hit by a 5 00:00:32,900 --> 00:00:20,310 20-foot tall wave as depicted here in 6 00:00:40,560 --> 00:00:36,720 it's that they got crushed by a 20-foot 7 00:00:46,110 --> 00:00:40,570 wall of water that was miles and miles 8 00:00:48,920 --> 00:00:46,120 deep and the human suffering dude abroad 9 00:00:52,920 --> 00:00:48,930 is unimaginable 10 00:00:56,250 --> 00:00:52,930 hundreds of thousands died millions of 11 00:01:01,009 --> 00:00:56,260 lives were destroyed and the devastation 12 00:01:03,660 --> 00:01:01,019 will go on for generations but maybe not 13 00:01:07,050 --> 00:01:03,670 you'll remember that a number of years 14 00:01:09,300 --> 00:01:07,060 ago there was a natural disaster in 15 00:01:11,700 --> 00:01:09,310 Southeast Asia there was a typhoon a 16 00:01:13,160 --> 00:01:11,710 monsoon that killed about a hundred 17 00:01:17,280 --> 00:01:13,170 thousand people 18 00:01:18,780 --> 00:01:17,290 I've asked about that event in the 19 00:01:21,630 --> 00:01:18,790 research I've done for your Souls 20 00:01:24,060 --> 00:01:21,640 planning your souls gift and what I was 21 00:01:28,260 --> 00:01:24,070 told in the channeling sessions is that 22 00:01:30,690 --> 00:01:28,270 those 100,000 or so souls before they 23 00:01:33,179 --> 00:01:30,700 were born they looked at the earth and 24 00:01:35,100 --> 00:01:33,189 they said basically we would like the 25 00:01:37,260 --> 00:01:35,110 earth as a planet as a whole 26 00:01:39,810 --> 00:01:37,270 to be at a certain frequency or 27 00:01:40,170 --> 00:01:39,820 vibration by a certain point in linear 28 00:01:42,480 --> 00:01:40,180 time 29 00:01:45,149 --> 00:01:42,490 and if it looks as though the earth is 30 00:01:47,310 --> 00:01:45,159 not going to get there we agree to give 31 00:01:50,130 --> 00:01:47,320 our lives in a large-scale natural 32 00:01:52,320 --> 00:01:50,140 disaster because we know that the result 33 00:01:55,320 --> 00:01:52,330 of that disaster will be a worldwide 34 00:01:57,630 --> 00:01:55,330 outpouring of love and support and aid 35 00:02:00,030 --> 00:01:57,640 and compassion it will elevate the 36 00:02:01,530 --> 00:02:00,040 frequency of the entire planet I think 37 00:02:07,020 --> 00:02:01,540 for a lot of people including myself 38 00:02:08,009 --> 00:02:07,030 that's just an unsatisfying answer let 39 00:02:09,960 --> 00:02:08,019 me be clear I don't mean to be 40 00:02:12,240 --> 00:02:09,970 dismissive or condescending of today's 41 00:02:14,820 --> 00:02:12,250 guest Robert Schwartz I believe he's a 42 00:02:17,789 --> 00:02:14,830 true spiritual seeker and someone who 43 00:02:19,320 --> 00:02:17,799 dedicates his life to helping people and 44 00:02:21,690 --> 00:02:19,330 I don't know if he's right or wrong 45 00:02:24,149 --> 00:02:21,700 about the souls plan raise the 46 00:02:28,740 --> 00:02:24,159 consciousness of the planet thing I 47 00:02:31,199 --> 00:02:28,750 don't know but I want to know at least I 48 00:02:35,940 --> 00:02:31,209 want to investigate the best that I can 49 00:02:38,369 --> 00:02:35,950 I want to have this level 3 discussion 50 00:02:41,480 --> 00:02:38,379 beyond the complete denial that 51 00:02:45,450 --> 00:02:41,490 consciousness exists and beyond the 52 00:02:48,480 --> 00:02:45,460 Pollyanna good-natured but misguided 53 00:02:51,980 --> 00:02:48,490 acceptance of every opinion on the 54 00:02:54,990 --> 00:02:51,990 matter I want to get to level 3 55 00:02:58,530 --> 00:02:55,000 intelligent earnest truth seekers like 56 00:03:00,530 --> 00:02:58,540 Rob who are trying to figure out what 57 00:03:03,000 --> 00:03:00,540 all this means 58 00:03:04,890 --> 00:03:03,010 stick around my interview with Robert 59 00:03:09,760 --> 00:03:04,900 Schwartz about what goes on between 60 00:03:17,960 --> 00:03:09,770 lives is coming up next on skeptic Oh 61 00:03:22,590 --> 00:03:20,640 today we welcome Robert Schwartz to 62 00:03:25,470 --> 00:03:22,600 skeptic Oh Rob as a trained 63 00:03:28,290 --> 00:03:25,480 hypnotherapist who helps guide people 64 00:03:30,449 --> 00:03:28,300 through past life regressions he's also 65 00:03:33,540 --> 00:03:30,459 the author of two very popular books 66 00:03:37,020 --> 00:03:33,550 your souls plan discovering the real 67 00:03:40,199 --> 00:03:37,030 meaning of the life you planned and your 68 00:03:42,570 --> 00:03:40,209 souls gift Rob welcome to skeptical 69 00:03:44,570 --> 00:03:42,580 thanks for joining me thank you Alex 70 00:03:48,330 --> 00:03:44,580 it's a pleasure to be here with you so 71 00:03:49,860 --> 00:03:48,340 Rob most of this audience that you're 72 00:03:52,440 --> 00:03:49,870 talking to right now the skeptical 73 00:03:55,020 --> 00:03:52,450 audience is going to be familiar with 74 00:03:57,690 --> 00:03:55,030 spirit communication even familiar with 75 00:03:59,940 --> 00:03:57,700 past life regression but you have a 76 00:04:01,740 --> 00:03:59,950 rather interesting story tell us a 77 00:04:04,680 --> 00:04:01,750 little bit about how you got started and 78 00:04:07,920 --> 00:04:04,690 what you do right now primarily in your 79 00:04:10,410 --> 00:04:07,930 work should I be happy to let me begin 80 00:04:13,560 --> 00:04:10,420 by saying that my website is your souls 81 00:04:15,960 --> 00:04:13,570 plan calm and if people go to the books 82 00:04:17,909 --> 00:04:15,970 pages of that website they can read 83 00:04:23,010 --> 00:04:17,919 large fortunes of your souls plan and 84 00:04:25,140 --> 00:04:23,020 your souls gift for free my path to 85 00:04:27,060 --> 00:04:25,150 writing these two books and the premise 86 00:04:29,700 --> 00:04:27,070 of the book books is that we plan our 87 00:04:33,000 --> 00:04:29,710 lives including our biggest challenges 88 00:04:35,550 --> 00:04:33,010 before were born because I started off 89 00:04:39,060 --> 00:04:35,560 in the corporate sector I have an MBA 90 00:04:40,650 --> 00:04:39,070 which I think is probably a typical for 91 00:04:43,590 --> 00:04:40,660 the author of a couple of New Age books 92 00:04:45,930 --> 00:04:43,600 and uh I was in the corporate sector for 93 00:04:48,090 --> 00:04:45,940 a number of years self-employed as a 94 00:04:49,560 --> 00:04:48,100 marketing and communications consultant 95 00:04:54,450 --> 00:04:49,570 basically doing different forms of 96 00:04:56,159 --> 00:04:54,460 corporate writing and back in 2003 after 97 00:04:58,950 --> 00:04:56,169 I had been doing that work for a number 98 00:05:01,830 --> 00:04:58,960 of years I had what you could call an 99 00:05:04,440 --> 00:05:01,840 existential crisis about my life I felt 100 00:05:07,140 --> 00:05:04,450 deeply unfulfilled by the corporate work 101 00:05:10,230 --> 00:05:07,150 that I was doing and at the same time I 102 00:05:12,690 --> 00:05:10,240 had this distinct feeling or sense that 103 00:05:14,820 --> 00:05:12,700 there was something else something quite 104 00:05:16,770 --> 00:05:14,830 specific that I was supposed to be doing 105 00:05:18,930 --> 00:05:16,780 here but I didn't know what it was and I 106 00:05:22,529 --> 00:05:18,940 wasn't even sure how to figure out what 107 00:05:24,510 --> 00:05:22,539 it was and so my first attempts to 108 00:05:27,480 --> 00:05:24,520 resolve this existential crisis were 109 00:05:29,550 --> 00:05:27,490 very conventional in nature I started 110 00:05:31,570 --> 00:05:29,560 off by going for career counseling took 111 00:05:34,210 --> 00:05:31,580 that myers-briggs inventory 112 00:05:36,580 --> 00:05:34,220 found out a time an infj personality 113 00:05:39,100 --> 00:05:36,590 type and all of that was interesting it 114 00:05:40,750 --> 00:05:39,110 really did not help me in any way and 115 00:05:43,000 --> 00:05:40,760 then I went to a lot of my friends and 116 00:05:45,520 --> 00:05:43,010 family and I said you know I'm really 117 00:05:47,020 --> 00:05:45,530 unhappy doing this corporate work I feel 118 00:05:49,720 --> 00:05:47,030 like there's something else I shouldn't 119 00:05:52,420 --> 00:05:49,730 be doing what do you think I should do 120 00:05:54,840 --> 00:05:52,430 with my life that by the way is not a 121 00:05:58,120 --> 00:05:54,850 good question to ever ask another person 122 00:05:59,410 --> 00:05:58,130 about half the people I asked literally 123 00:06:01,510 --> 00:05:59,420 shrugged their shoulders and said I 124 00:06:02,920 --> 00:06:01,520 don't know and the other half advised me 125 00:06:04,690 --> 00:06:02,930 to do whatever they were doing for a 126 00:06:08,110 --> 00:06:04,700 living which as you can imagine was not 127 00:06:10,150 --> 00:06:08,120 tremendously helpful so I started to 128 00:06:13,630 --> 00:06:10,160 think alright I've got to think outside 129 00:06:16,510 --> 00:06:13,640 the box here what can I do to to figure 130 00:06:18,670 --> 00:06:16,520 out what I should do with my life and 131 00:06:19,330 --> 00:06:18,680 this idea came to me go see a psychic 132 00:06:21,880 --> 00:06:19,340 medium 133 00:06:24,190 --> 00:06:21,890 now I come from a very conventional 134 00:06:26,560 --> 00:06:24,200 background mediumship is not part of 135 00:06:28,720 --> 00:06:26,570 their back rap and I wasn't even sure 136 00:06:30,010 --> 00:06:28,730 that I believed in mediumship but I 137 00:06:32,020 --> 00:06:30,020 thought why not 138 00:06:34,420 --> 00:06:32,030 you know I'll invest in our of my time 139 00:06:37,360 --> 00:06:34,430 and some money and if nothing comes from 140 00:06:39,520 --> 00:06:37,370 it there's no harm done so I did this I 141 00:06:44,110 --> 00:06:39,530 had my first session ever with a psychic 142 00:06:46,180 --> 00:06:44,120 medium on May 7th of 2003 and the reason 143 00:06:49,420 --> 00:06:46,190 I remember the date is that this was the 144 00:06:51,820 --> 00:06:49,430 day on which my life changed the medium 145 00:06:53,500 --> 00:06:51,830 introduced me to the concept of spirit 146 00:06:56,140 --> 00:06:53,510 guides which I had never even heard of 147 00:06:58,540 --> 00:06:56,150 at that time and she explained that a 148 00:07:01,210 --> 00:06:58,550 spirit guide is a highly evolved 149 00:07:03,340 --> 00:07:01,220 non-physical being with whom we plan our 150 00:07:05,320 --> 00:07:03,350 lives before were born and who then 151 00:07:07,420 --> 00:07:05,330 guides us through our lives after we 152 00:07:09,670 --> 00:07:07,430 come into body and through this 153 00:07:12,330 --> 00:07:09,680 particular medium I was actually able to 154 00:07:15,100 --> 00:07:12,340 talk at length with my guides that game 155 00:07:17,410 --> 00:07:15,110 they sell a lot of amazing things to me 156 00:07:20,050 --> 00:07:17,420 in that session one of which was they 157 00:07:22,000 --> 00:07:20,060 said you planned your life including 158 00:07:24,430 --> 00:07:22,010 your biggest challenges before you were 159 00:07:26,770 --> 00:07:24,440 born and I will tell you Alex I just 160 00:07:27,760 --> 00:07:26,780 shook my head and I said well why in the 161 00:07:30,610 --> 00:07:27,770 world did I do that 162 00:07:34,240 --> 00:07:30,620 and they said you did this for purposes 163 00:07:35,980 --> 00:07:34,250 of spiritual growth so I probably would 164 00:07:39,400 --> 00:07:35,990 have dismissed all of this as some kind 165 00:07:41,230 --> 00:07:39,410 of delusion on my part except that the 166 00:07:43,900 --> 00:07:41,240 guides knew everything about me without 167 00:07:45,040 --> 00:07:43,910 me telling them anything they did what 168 00:07:47,740 --> 00:07:45,050 all of my challenges that 169 00:07:50,230 --> 00:07:47,750 then they were able to give me detailed 170 00:07:51,490 --> 00:07:50,240 explanations as to why I had wanted 171 00:07:53,850 --> 00:07:51,500 before I was born 172 00:07:56,320 --> 00:07:53,860 to have those very difficult experiences 173 00:07:58,420 --> 00:07:56,330 and again this was all without me 174 00:08:02,020 --> 00:07:58,430 telling them anything about myself 175 00:08:04,210 --> 00:08:02,030 so this rocked my world so to speak and 176 00:08:06,520 --> 00:08:04,220 in the days and weeks after that session 177 00:08:09,490 --> 00:08:06,530 with the medium I thought about this 178 00:08:11,320 --> 00:08:09,500 perspective constantly and the affected 179 00:08:14,020 --> 00:08:11,330 it happen was that it created a deep 180 00:08:16,510 --> 00:08:14,030 healing because it allowed me for the 181 00:08:18,490 --> 00:08:16,520 first time in my life to see a deeper 182 00:08:21,040 --> 00:08:18,500 meaning and a deeper purpose to the 183 00:08:23,050 --> 00:08:21,050 challenging things that had happened so 184 00:08:25,240 --> 00:08:23,060 I realized I was on to a concept that 185 00:08:28,119 --> 00:08:25,250 could bring a similar kind of healing to 186 00:08:30,430 --> 00:08:28,129 other people that was when I first 187 00:08:33,730 --> 00:08:30,440 started to think about writing a book on 188 00:08:36,190 --> 00:08:33,740 the subject and then a number of things 189 00:08:38,649 --> 00:08:36,200 happened in quick succession that 190 00:08:41,560 --> 00:08:38,659 launched me on that path I started 191 00:08:44,170 --> 00:08:41,570 having spiritual experiences of my own 192 00:08:46,060 --> 00:08:44,180 for the first time in my life one in 193 00:08:48,280 --> 00:08:46,070 particular that was quite profound an 194 00:08:53,220 --> 00:08:48,290 experience of unconditional love or 195 00:08:55,780 --> 00:08:53,230 divine love for every person I saw and 196 00:08:57,699 --> 00:08:55,790 that combined with the session with the 197 00:09:00,699 --> 00:08:57,709 medium and some other spiritual 198 00:09:02,530 --> 00:09:00,709 experiences that took place that got me 199 00:09:04,600 --> 00:09:02,540 to decide okay I will leave the 200 00:09:07,449 --> 00:09:04,610 corporate world and write a book on this 201 00:09:09,790 --> 00:09:07,459 subject and three years later your souls 202 00:09:11,470 --> 00:09:09,800 plan came out and then a few years after 203 00:09:13,630 --> 00:09:11,480 that your Souls gift 204 00:09:17,230 --> 00:09:13,640 that in a nutshell is how this got 205 00:09:19,660 --> 00:09:17,240 started awesome great and I love the way 206 00:09:23,500 --> 00:09:19,670 you tell that story I love the fact that 207 00:09:27,910 --> 00:09:23,510 you know you are this rationale based 208 00:09:30,910 --> 00:09:27,920 MBA type guy who makes this radical 209 00:09:33,010 --> 00:09:30,920 shift in their life and in their career 210 00:09:35,680 --> 00:09:33,020 I think that's terrific I think it fits 211 00:09:39,519 --> 00:09:35,690 really nicely with the way we've tried 212 00:09:42,340 --> 00:09:39,529 to approach the spiritual questions from 213 00:09:44,410 --> 00:09:42,350 a scientific perspective on this show - 214 00:09:46,509 --> 00:09:44,420 so I think that's awesome can you maybe 215 00:09:49,060 --> 00:09:46,519 tell folks just a little bit about since 216 00:09:52,329 --> 00:09:49,070 you are this serious rational kind of 217 00:09:54,400 --> 00:09:52,339 guy how you went about training I mean 218 00:09:57,690 --> 00:09:54,410 hitting the therapy is something someone 219 00:10:00,970 --> 00:09:57,700 can spend a lot of time and a lot of 220 00:10:03,400 --> 00:10:00,980 educational credits towards you know 221 00:10:06,010 --> 00:10:03,410 exploring you have some initials after 222 00:10:08,740 --> 00:10:06,020 your name I assume their past life 223 00:10:11,970 --> 00:10:08,750 between life kind of certification how 224 00:10:15,100 --> 00:10:11,980 did you go about that aspect of this 225 00:10:17,560 --> 00:10:15,110 well in order to answer that question I 226 00:10:19,510 --> 00:10:17,570 first need to explain how I researched 227 00:10:22,750 --> 00:10:19,520 my two books your soul's planning your 228 00:10:24,520 --> 00:10:22,760 soul's gift what happened after the 229 00:10:26,560 --> 00:10:24,530 session with the medium and when I 230 00:10:29,410 --> 00:10:26,570 started to have spiritual experiences of 231 00:10:32,980 --> 00:10:29,420 my own you know coming as I did from 232 00:10:36,400 --> 00:10:32,990 this very rational left brain analytic 233 00:10:38,380 --> 00:10:36,410 background my my first thought when I 234 00:10:40,900 --> 00:10:38,390 was going to research a book about how 235 00:10:42,490 --> 00:10:40,910 we plan our lives before were born is 236 00:10:44,350 --> 00:10:42,500 that there have to be people somewhere 237 00:10:46,660 --> 00:10:44,360 in the world who remember planning their 238 00:10:47,950 --> 00:10:46,670 lifetime I'll find them well this was 239 00:10:50,260 --> 00:10:47,960 back to around the time when the 240 00:10:52,720 --> 00:10:50,270 internet had first come out so I thought 241 00:10:55,270 --> 00:10:52,730 here's the tool I need to find those 242 00:10:57,100 --> 00:10:55,280 people and I went to every spirituality 243 00:10:59,470 --> 00:10:57,110 bulletin board I could find I posted a 244 00:11:01,330 --> 00:10:59,480 message saying author writing a book 245 00:11:03,340 --> 00:11:01,340 about how we plan our lives before were 246 00:11:06,370 --> 00:11:03,350 born if you remember planning your 247 00:11:08,260 --> 00:11:06,380 current lifetime please contact me and I 248 00:11:10,720 --> 00:11:08,270 started to get thousands of emails from 249 00:11:12,670 --> 00:11:10,730 people all over the world not a single 250 00:11:15,100 --> 00:11:12,680 one of whom remembered planning their 251 00:11:17,110 --> 00:11:15,110 current lifetime they were writing to me 252 00:11:20,110 --> 00:11:17,120 with stories about past lives on earth 253 00:11:21,870 --> 00:11:20,120 past lives and other planets lifetimes 254 00:11:24,880 --> 00:11:21,880 as animals 255 00:11:26,500 --> 00:11:24,890 non-physical lifetimes fascinating 256 00:11:28,900 --> 00:11:26,510 stories but not at all what I was 257 00:11:32,110 --> 00:11:28,910 looking for this went on for a period 258 00:11:33,790 --> 00:11:32,120 months finally I began to despair of 259 00:11:35,920 --> 00:11:33,800 ever being able to write a book on this 260 00:11:38,620 --> 00:11:35,930 subject and it was that point I said a 261 00:11:40,960 --> 00:11:38,630 prayer and I said dear God if you want 262 00:11:43,420 --> 00:11:40,970 me to write a book about how we plan our 263 00:11:46,390 --> 00:11:43,430 lives before were born I will do it but 264 00:11:48,220 --> 00:11:46,400 I need a little help here and wouldn't 265 00:11:51,100 --> 00:11:48,230 you know it within a very short time of 266 00:11:53,530 --> 00:11:51,110 making that prayer I came into contact 267 00:11:56,440 --> 00:11:53,540 with several very gifted mediums and 268 00:11:58,990 --> 00:11:56,450 channels who in one way or another could 269 00:12:00,880 --> 00:11:59,000 find out what somebody planned before 270 00:12:04,030 --> 00:12:00,890 they were born and so this was the 271 00:12:06,010 --> 00:12:04,040 methodology I used to research your 272 00:12:08,320 --> 00:12:06,020 souls plan and your souls gift I would 273 00:12:09,579 --> 00:12:08,330 interview somebody about a common life 274 00:12:11,960 --> 00:12:09,589 challenge 275 00:12:14,150 --> 00:12:11,970 and it's all the most common things we 276 00:12:17,060 --> 00:12:14,160 face here because I wanted the books to 277 00:12:18,889 --> 00:12:17,070 help as many people as possible so we 278 00:12:21,100 --> 00:12:18,899 talked about the pre birth planning of 279 00:12:23,840 --> 00:12:21,110 physical illness mental illness 280 00:12:26,180 --> 00:12:23,850 blindness deafness drug addiction 281 00:12:28,009 --> 00:12:26,190 alcoholism accidents the death of a 282 00:12:30,079 --> 00:12:28,019 loved one any common challenge you could 283 00:12:31,939 --> 00:12:30,089 think of and then the people I 284 00:12:34,100 --> 00:12:31,949 interviewed had one two or sometimes 285 00:12:36,439 --> 00:12:34,110 three sessions with the mediums and 286 00:12:38,569 --> 00:12:36,449 channels in which we asked spirit did 287 00:12:42,259 --> 00:12:38,579 this person plan this experience before 288 00:12:43,850 --> 00:12:42,269 he or she was born and if so why and 289 00:12:46,460 --> 00:12:43,860 then in the books I present all the 290 00:12:48,699 --> 00:12:46,470 information that came through so the 291 00:12:50,960 --> 00:12:48,709 intention is to give meaning to 292 00:12:54,319 --> 00:12:50,970 suffering that might otherwise appear 293 00:12:58,639 --> 00:12:54,329 not to have any meaning now your souls 294 00:13:01,129 --> 00:12:58,649 plan came out in early 2007 and as soon 295 00:13:03,110 --> 00:13:01,139 as it hit the market I started to get 296 00:13:05,210 --> 00:13:03,120 emails from people all around the world 297 00:13:07,999 --> 00:13:05,220 who said I want you to tell me what my 298 00:13:10,519 --> 00:13:08,009 life plan is and for five years I 299 00:13:12,530 --> 00:13:10,529 responded to each one of those emails in 300 00:13:14,990 --> 00:13:12,540 exactly the same way I said I'm not a 301 00:13:16,670 --> 00:13:15,000 medium I'm not a channel I don't know 302 00:13:18,650 --> 00:13:16,680 what your life plan is if you want to 303 00:13:21,860 --> 00:13:18,660 know that work with one of the mediums 304 00:13:24,050 --> 00:13:21,870 in the book but then I learned about the 305 00:13:26,449 --> 00:13:24,060 field of life between lives regression 306 00:13:28,850 --> 00:13:26,459 and I took the training to be able to 307 00:13:30,530 --> 00:13:28,860 offer that you mentioned in the intro 308 00:13:33,259 --> 00:13:30,540 that I do past life regression that's 309 00:13:36,290 --> 00:13:33,269 true but it's actually a very small part 310 00:13:38,269 --> 00:13:36,300 of my practice as a hypnotist 99 plus 311 00:13:40,100 --> 00:13:38,279 percent of the people who are coming to 312 00:13:42,680 --> 00:13:40,110 me want to know what their life plan is 313 00:13:45,379 --> 00:13:42,690 and we can answer that question in in 314 00:13:47,240 --> 00:13:45,389 between lives regression or a life 315 00:13:50,420 --> 00:13:47,250 between lives regressions it's the same 316 00:13:53,150 --> 00:13:50,430 thing what happens briefly in that kind 317 00:13:55,639 --> 00:13:53,160 of session we go through some 318 00:13:58,400 --> 00:13:55,649 preliminary steps that are intended to 319 00:14:00,650 --> 00:13:58,410 relax the client then I guide them into 320 00:14:02,600 --> 00:14:00,660 a past life it's almost always one that 321 00:14:05,120 --> 00:14:02,610 had a big impact on the plan for the 322 00:14:07,460 --> 00:14:05,130 current lifetime at the end of the past 323 00:14:09,740 --> 00:14:07,470 life their consciousness leaves the body 324 00:14:11,720 --> 00:14:09,750 in the death scene and crosses back over 325 00:14:14,210 --> 00:14:11,730 to the other side they go home so to 326 00:14:16,309 --> 00:14:14,220 speak which I know might sound a little 327 00:14:18,980 --> 00:14:16,319 bit ominous but there's actually nothing 328 00:14:20,990 --> 00:14:18,990 to it it's very easy safe natural and 329 00:14:23,000 --> 00:14:21,000 gentle and everyone listening to this 330 00:14:23,269 --> 00:14:23,010 interview has probably done it hundreds 331 00:14:25,910 --> 00:14:23,279 of 332 00:14:26,900 --> 00:14:25,920 times already when they get back to the 333 00:14:28,910 --> 00:14:26,910 other side 334 00:14:31,160 --> 00:14:28,920 most people are greeted by a spirit 335 00:14:32,480 --> 00:14:31,170 guide they talked with the guy briefly 336 00:14:35,179 --> 00:14:32,490 about why they were shown that 337 00:14:37,850 --> 00:14:35,189 particular past life and how it affected 338 00:14:39,410 --> 00:14:37,860 the plan for the current lifetime and 339 00:14:41,179 --> 00:14:39,420 then we asked the person's guide to 340 00:14:44,329 --> 00:14:41,189 escort them to what is called the 341 00:14:46,400 --> 00:14:44,339 council of elders the council consists 342 00:14:48,920 --> 00:14:46,410 of the very wise loving and highly 343 00:14:51,199 --> 00:14:48,930 evolved beings who oversee reincarnation 344 00:14:53,150 --> 00:14:51,209 on earth and they know everything about 345 00:14:55,340 --> 00:14:53,160 the client the plan for the current 346 00:14:58,100 --> 00:14:55,350 lifetime and everything that happened in 347 00:14:59,989 --> 00:14:58,110 every past life they've already had so 348 00:15:02,360 --> 00:14:59,999 if someone gets in front of the council 349 00:15:04,519 --> 00:15:02,370 of elders that is potentially a 350 00:15:06,559 --> 00:15:04,529 life-changing experience because the 351 00:15:09,199 --> 00:15:06,569 council can answer literally any 352 00:15:13,100 --> 00:15:09,209 question they put to them and so this is 353 00:15:15,769 --> 00:15:13,110 now about a third of my life about a 354 00:15:18,710 --> 00:15:15,779 third of my time is spent doing between 355 00:15:20,900 --> 00:15:18,720 lives regressions it allows me to 356 00:15:23,720 --> 00:15:20,910 facilitate a process in which people 357 00:15:25,460 --> 00:15:23,730 have a direct experience that answers 358 00:15:27,920 --> 00:15:25,470 their questions about their life plan 359 00:15:29,929 --> 00:15:27,930 they don't have to rely on a medium to 360 00:15:31,340 --> 00:15:29,939 be accurate they talked to spirit 361 00:15:37,759 --> 00:15:31,350 directly and get the information 362 00:15:40,790 --> 00:15:37,769 themselves yeah I mean this is where it 363 00:15:42,290 --> 00:15:40,800 gets challenging I guess on a number of 364 00:15:44,780 --> 00:15:42,300 fronts because and that's why I was 365 00:15:47,509 --> 00:15:44,790 guess I was approaching it from a 366 00:15:49,819 --> 00:15:47,519 training standpoint I mean the way you 367 00:15:52,009 --> 00:15:49,829 present some of this stuff Rob is is 368 00:15:55,549 --> 00:15:52,019 awesome we've heard a lot of this stuff 369 00:15:59,660 --> 00:15:55,559 before it's you saying in a very 370 00:16:01,519 --> 00:15:59,670 confident assured way which I take it is 371 00:16:04,639 --> 00:16:01,529 from your experience your direct 372 00:16:07,759 --> 00:16:04,649 experience and through yourself and and 373 00:16:10,939 --> 00:16:07,769 also working with your clients I haven't 374 00:16:13,730 --> 00:16:10,949 just seen it that way one I'd first say 375 00:16:15,949 --> 00:16:13,740 that I've experimented with past life 376 00:16:19,730 --> 00:16:15,959 regressions years ago I did one with 377 00:16:23,449 --> 00:16:19,740 gruesome a guy I met online Bruce 378 00:16:26,480 --> 00:16:23,459 Goldberg a very very poorly done 379 00:16:27,980 --> 00:16:26,490 very unprofessional in my opinion even 380 00:16:30,470 --> 00:16:27,990 though he has quite a reputation is 381 00:16:32,059 --> 00:16:30,480 completely unsuccessful did another one 382 00:16:35,990 --> 00:16:32,069 with someone else I met through skeptic 383 00:16:37,040 --> 00:16:36,000 oh the guy was very earnest spent hours 384 00:16:39,470 --> 00:16:37,050 with me 385 00:16:40,730 --> 00:16:39,480 there was no results of it and this is 386 00:16:43,580 --> 00:16:40,740 from someone just speaking for myself 387 00:16:45,950 --> 00:16:43,590 I've investigated after death 388 00:16:47,420 --> 00:16:45,960 communication thoroughly you know as I 389 00:16:49,430 --> 00:16:47,430 pointed you out some of the links that 390 00:16:51,640 --> 00:16:49,440 we've done in this show I've interviewed 391 00:16:54,200 --> 00:16:51,650 dr. Julie by show though I think has 392 00:16:56,600 --> 00:16:54,210 researched this scientifically more than 393 00:16:59,240 --> 00:16:56,610 anyone else and I'm very impressed by 394 00:17:01,670 --> 00:16:59,250 her research and we conducted similar 395 00:17:04,550 --> 00:17:01,680 type of experiments demonstrations on 396 00:17:06,949 --> 00:17:04,560 this show with skeptics that is people 397 00:17:09,949 --> 00:17:06,959 who are not willing to accept the 398 00:17:11,390 --> 00:17:09,959 reality of this from from anyway if you 399 00:17:13,250 --> 00:17:11,400 prove it to them scientifically or 400 00:17:16,310 --> 00:17:13,260 otherwise they just it's outside of 401 00:17:21,290 --> 00:17:16,320 their worldview but so I guess what I'm 402 00:17:24,250 --> 00:17:21,300 kind of leading up to there is my 403 00:17:28,310 --> 00:17:24,260 experience is that it isn't quite as 404 00:17:31,220 --> 00:17:28,320 clean-cut in certain and you know 405 00:17:32,600 --> 00:17:31,230 matter-of-fact is the way you've kind of 406 00:17:34,300 --> 00:17:32,610 laid it out there do you get what I'm 407 00:17:37,520 --> 00:17:34,310 where I'm coming from because I'm not 408 00:17:40,640 --> 00:17:37,530 coming from a purely skeptical I don't 409 00:17:44,270 --> 00:17:40,650 believe you standpoint I'm coming from 410 00:17:46,760 --> 00:17:44,280 let's compare and contrast all the 411 00:17:49,490 --> 00:17:46,770 different experiences that folks are 412 00:17:51,500 --> 00:17:49,500 having and that mediums are reporting 413 00:17:54,440 --> 00:17:51,510 and let's kind of see where some of this 414 00:17:54,890 --> 00:17:54,450 stuff starts to shake out do you get 415 00:17:58,250 --> 00:17:54,900 what I mean 416 00:18:00,770 --> 00:17:58,260 I completely understand what you're 417 00:18:03,950 --> 00:18:00,780 saying the first thing I want to say in 418 00:18:07,820 --> 00:18:03,960 response is that my work is in offering 419 00:18:09,770 --> 00:18:07,830 not an attempt of persuasion it does not 420 00:18:11,780 --> 00:18:09,780 matter to me at all whether or not 421 00:18:14,630 --> 00:18:11,790 someone believes in pre birth planning 422 00:18:16,490 --> 00:18:14,640 or between lives aggressions I care that 423 00:18:19,370 --> 00:18:16,500 people are happy that they lead 424 00:18:21,320 --> 00:18:19,380 fulfilling lives how they do that what 425 00:18:23,900 --> 00:18:21,330 their belief system is does not matter 426 00:18:26,390 --> 00:18:23,910 to me it's I'm offering this to people 427 00:18:27,950 --> 00:18:26,400 in the spirit of helpfulness but it's up 428 00:18:32,440 --> 00:18:27,960 to them whether or not they want to 429 00:18:35,030 --> 00:18:32,450 accept the offering also I want to say 430 00:18:37,400 --> 00:18:35,040 you know some people do have more 431 00:18:41,180 --> 00:18:37,410 difficulty going into the trance state 432 00:18:43,490 --> 00:18:41,190 than others those tend to be people who 433 00:18:47,030 --> 00:18:43,500 are very analytic either by nature 434 00:18:49,070 --> 00:18:47,040 and/or training the other categories 435 00:18:50,899 --> 00:18:49,080 people who have trouble gettin into 436 00:18:53,499 --> 00:18:50,909 trance are people who have difficulty 437 00:18:56,089 --> 00:18:53,509 be relaxing for one reason or another 438 00:18:58,879 --> 00:18:56,099 relaxation is really the key to the 439 00:19:02,060 --> 00:18:58,889 whole experience generally the reason 440 00:19:04,279 --> 00:19:02,070 someone has trouble relaxing is that 441 00:19:06,049 --> 00:19:04,289 they have a very very pressing issue in 442 00:19:09,320 --> 00:19:06,059 their life that they really really want 443 00:19:12,109 --> 00:19:09,330 to gain insight into or healing or finds 444 00:19:15,409 --> 00:19:12,119 just some way of coping with it and so 445 00:19:18,049 --> 00:19:15,419 that attachment to outcome so to speak 446 00:19:20,659 --> 00:19:18,059 can cause the person to make even very 447 00:19:22,789 --> 00:19:20,669 subtle efforts to go into trance which 448 00:19:25,549 --> 00:19:22,799 is exactly what you don't want to do 449 00:19:28,009 --> 00:19:25,559 going into trance is a process that you 450 00:19:30,139 --> 00:19:28,019 allow to happen it's not a process that 451 00:19:32,930 --> 00:19:30,149 you make happen it's kind of like going 452 00:19:35,690 --> 00:19:32,940 to a movie you know all you have to do 453 00:19:37,460 --> 00:19:35,700 is pay your admission fee pick up your 454 00:19:41,089 --> 00:19:37,470 bucket of popcorn and then sit down in 455 00:19:43,219 --> 00:19:41,099 the seat and allow the movie to display 456 00:19:47,960 --> 00:19:43,229 in front of you it's very much like that 457 00:19:50,719 --> 00:19:47,970 but you can't make it happen now if you 458 00:19:54,200 --> 00:19:50,729 were to observe some of the sessions 459 00:19:57,349 --> 00:19:54,210 that I do I wonder what your reaction 460 00:19:59,239 --> 00:19:57,359 would be because the people who are 461 00:20:03,469 --> 00:19:59,249 having the experience not all of them 462 00:20:06,229 --> 00:20:03,479 but many of them there is absolutely no 463 00:20:07,909 --> 00:20:06,239 doubt in their mind that they had the 464 00:20:11,180 --> 00:20:07,919 between lives experience that they 465 00:20:15,249 --> 00:20:11,190 talked to the council of elders they 466 00:20:17,839 --> 00:20:15,259 talked consistently about the complete 467 00:20:21,169 --> 00:20:17,849 non-judgment and unconditional love they 468 00:20:24,589 --> 00:20:21,179 felt coming from the council so they 469 00:20:27,109 --> 00:20:24,599 talked consistently about having a sense 470 00:20:29,899 --> 00:20:27,119 that the council knew everything about 471 00:20:33,320 --> 00:20:29,909 them and yet had absolutely no judgment 472 00:20:35,060 --> 00:20:33,330 of them and for many of them it's a 473 00:20:38,169 --> 00:20:35,070 multi-sensory experience they're 474 00:20:41,509 --> 00:20:38,179 actually there and so it's profoundly 475 00:20:45,979 --> 00:20:41,519 emotional they're also being given 476 00:20:48,320 --> 00:20:45,989 information that they otherwise would 477 00:20:51,049 --> 00:20:48,330 not have access to and then sometime 478 00:20:53,269 --> 00:20:51,059 down the road in many cases the 479 00:20:54,229 --> 00:20:53,279 information they've been given turns out 480 00:20:56,409 --> 00:20:54,239 to be correct 481 00:20:58,759 --> 00:20:56,419 so they end up getting some kind of 482 00:21:02,060 --> 00:20:58,769 independent verification of what the 483 00:21:03,829 --> 00:21:02,070 council told them again I don't want to 484 00:21:05,660 --> 00:21:03,839 try to persuade you that it's a real 485 00:21:08,270 --> 00:21:05,670 phenomena 486 00:21:10,990 --> 00:21:08,280 but when I see people having this 487 00:21:13,940 --> 00:21:11,000 experience again and again and again 488 00:21:15,100 --> 00:21:13,950 there's no doubt in my mind that it's 489 00:21:18,440 --> 00:21:15,110 actually happening 490 00:21:20,540 --> 00:21:18,450 yeah I mean go ahead and persuade me I 491 00:21:22,100 --> 00:21:20,550 want to be persuaded you know what I 492 00:21:24,290 --> 00:21:22,110 mean I want to be persuaded 493 00:21:26,840 --> 00:21:24,300 I want to persuade other people that's 494 00:21:30,020 --> 00:21:26,850 why I do this you know the tagline of 495 00:21:32,720 --> 00:21:30,030 skeptic Oh is inquiry to perpetuate 496 00:21:34,580 --> 00:21:32,730 doubt and I didn't find that I didn't 497 00:21:36,470 --> 00:21:34,590 start with that tag line that tag line 498 00:21:39,350 --> 00:21:36,480 found me because that's what these 499 00:21:41,360 --> 00:21:39,360 ancient Greek philosophers that invented 500 00:21:43,340 --> 00:21:41,370 the idea of skeptical that's what they 501 00:21:46,190 --> 00:21:43,350 were about and then I got into and I go 502 00:21:48,920 --> 00:21:46,200 wow what a wonderful spiritual journey 503 00:21:50,930 --> 00:21:48,930 because doubt is an awesome spiritual 504 00:21:53,270 --> 00:21:50,940 journey as opposed to certainty and 505 00:21:54,740 --> 00:21:53,280 certain to that you know oh I have all 506 00:21:57,200 --> 00:21:54,750 the answers and I'm not saying that 507 00:21:58,820 --> 00:21:57,210 that's what you're saying let's be clear 508 00:22:01,100 --> 00:21:58,830 I'm just trying to hash some of these 509 00:22:03,440 --> 00:22:01,110 things out because you know what when I 510 00:22:05,120 --> 00:22:03,450 started like on this journey and my 511 00:22:07,250 --> 00:22:05,130 journeys gone a lot of different ways 512 00:22:09,560 --> 00:22:07,260 it's mainly been about science and 513 00:22:12,470 --> 00:22:09,570 following the scientific method as this 514 00:22:16,100 --> 00:22:12,480 kind of grounding and as this toolbox 515 00:22:19,190 --> 00:22:16,110 with which to look at all the stuff that 516 00:22:21,020 --> 00:22:19,200 science has deemed as forbidden or 517 00:22:23,090 --> 00:22:21,030 outside the realm of science and it 518 00:22:25,370 --> 00:22:23,100 really isn't so like as I mentioned 519 00:22:27,830 --> 00:22:25,380 after death communication would be one 520 00:22:29,090 --> 00:22:27,840 example of that near-death experience 521 00:22:32,150 --> 00:22:29,100 would be another where there's now you 522 00:22:35,570 --> 00:22:32,160 know over 200 peer-reviewed published 523 00:22:37,790 --> 00:22:35,580 papers that clearly strongly suggest 524 00:22:40,480 --> 00:22:37,800 that consciousness survives death so 525 00:22:43,550 --> 00:22:40,490 that is using the scientific method and 526 00:22:45,350 --> 00:22:43,560 scientific principles to establish 527 00:22:47,750 --> 00:22:45,360 something as well as we can that goes 528 00:22:49,640 --> 00:22:47,760 beyond science but back to I guess my 529 00:22:52,460 --> 00:22:49,650 story and not that it's about my story 530 00:22:54,260 --> 00:22:52,470 but that's all we can share when I first 531 00:22:57,560 --> 00:22:54,270 got into this I said okay I'm gonna go 532 00:23:00,260 --> 00:22:57,570 do the medium ship work and I'm gonna 533 00:23:01,760 --> 00:23:00,270 follow some of the protocols that some 534 00:23:04,010 --> 00:23:01,770 of these scientists are following 535 00:23:06,230 --> 00:23:04,020 because they seem to make sense to me in 536 00:23:08,660 --> 00:23:06,240 terms of sharing limited amounts of 537 00:23:10,220 --> 00:23:08,670 information kind of being this proxy who 538 00:23:12,700 --> 00:23:10,230 sits in the middle because the most 539 00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:12,710 important thing for me would be 540 00:23:17,420 --> 00:23:15,210 verification of the reality of the 541 00:23:17,960 --> 00:23:17,430 communication channel so I decided up 542 00:23:21,050 --> 00:23:17,970 front 543 00:23:23,110 --> 00:23:21,060 I will kind of limit that channel I'm 544 00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:23,120 not going to give a lot of information 545 00:23:28,640 --> 00:23:27,090 beforehand even though that might reduce 546 00:23:31,430 --> 00:23:28,650 the amount of information I get back 547 00:23:33,230 --> 00:23:31,440 because it will increase my ability to 548 00:23:35,690 --> 00:23:33,240 measure well wow I didn't give that 549 00:23:37,990 --> 00:23:35,700 person anything and I got a lot back so 550 00:23:40,820 --> 00:23:38,000 I started with the first medium who was 551 00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:40,830 recommended to me by the wind bridge 552 00:23:46,100 --> 00:23:43,490 Institute who does more certification 553 00:23:48,470 --> 00:23:46,110 high quality certification of these 554 00:23:52,010 --> 00:23:48,480 mediums than anyone I've ever seen Julie 555 00:23:54,770 --> 00:23:52,020 dr. Julie by Sheila's PhD pharmacology 556 00:23:57,410 --> 00:23:54,780 so she you know she tests all has been 557 00:23:59,540 --> 00:23:57,420 trained to test all sorts of things to 558 00:24:01,490 --> 00:23:59,550 the highest you know triple blind 559 00:24:03,410 --> 00:24:01,500 standard and she's done that with 560 00:24:05,810 --> 00:24:03,420 mediums so the mediums that she's 561 00:24:08,330 --> 00:24:05,820 certified I have a strong degree of 562 00:24:10,340 --> 00:24:08,340 confidence in that doesn't mean that 563 00:24:12,320 --> 00:24:10,350 people can't find other ones or that you 564 00:24:14,840 --> 00:24:12,330 in your work haven't found some terrific 565 00:24:16,550 --> 00:24:14,850 mediums I'm sure you have I'm just going 566 00:24:17,860 --> 00:24:16,560 through my process and it was the first 567 00:24:20,870 --> 00:24:17,870 one I started with 568 00:24:23,360 --> 00:24:20,880 it was rather expensive as medium goes 569 00:24:25,700 --> 00:24:23,370 as mediums go and we did this session 570 00:24:27,290 --> 00:24:25,710 and this is several years ago and it was 571 00:24:29,980 --> 00:24:27,300 a complete disaster I mean there was 572 00:24:32,120 --> 00:24:29,990 nothing no hits but the the the 573 00:24:34,550 --> 00:24:32,130 significant thing for me was at the end 574 00:24:37,250 --> 00:24:34,560 she goes you know this rarely happens I 575 00:24:39,140 --> 00:24:37,260 need to return all your money and so 576 00:24:40,580 --> 00:24:39,150 that immediately kind of dispelled this 577 00:24:42,770 --> 00:24:40,590 thing that you'll always hear skeptics 578 00:24:44,390 --> 00:24:42,780 say that these people are scam artists 579 00:24:46,340 --> 00:24:44,400 are all the rest set here's someone had 580 00:24:47,870 --> 00:24:46,350 spent you know an hour hour and a half 581 00:24:49,640 --> 00:24:47,880 with me and said hey it isn't working 582 00:24:51,500 --> 00:24:49,650 here's your money back to kind of 583 00:24:52,970 --> 00:24:51,510 shorten up this story I found someone 584 00:24:56,090 --> 00:24:52,980 else getting highly-respected 585 00:24:58,430 --> 00:24:56,100 almost the same thing happened and again 586 00:24:59,570 --> 00:24:58,440 the guy was super nice he does man I got 587 00:25:00,200 --> 00:24:59,580 to give your money back this rarely 588 00:25:03,530 --> 00:25:00,210 happens 589 00:25:05,990 --> 00:25:03,540 the third medium I talk to though it was 590 00:25:10,550 --> 00:25:06,000 a completely different situation I 591 00:25:12,380 --> 00:25:10,560 didn't change my protocol on my end kind 592 00:25:14,270 --> 00:25:12,390 of going it's what you said I didn't 593 00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:14,280 have any different mindset I didn't do a 594 00:25:20,210 --> 00:25:17,010 different prayer mantra or anything like 595 00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:20,220 that or relieve myself of any you know 596 00:25:24,890 --> 00:25:23,010 predisposed ideas I had the third medium 597 00:25:26,750 --> 00:25:24,900 was an incredible connection I had a 598 00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:26,760 deep connection with my father and said 599 00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:29,450 some things that I thought were 600 00:25:34,909 --> 00:25:31,770 impossible for someone too 601 00:25:40,700 --> 00:25:34,919 without having some true connection to 602 00:25:43,490 --> 00:25:40,710 the other side so I guess I would kind 603 00:25:46,700 --> 00:25:43,500 of use that to kind of call into 604 00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:46,710 question that I mean why why does it 605 00:25:54,769 --> 00:25:51,450 depend on me and if there's a reality to 606 00:25:57,200 --> 00:25:54,779 this and certain people can accept 607 00:25:59,899 --> 00:25:57,210 access that reality and bring back 608 00:26:02,060 --> 00:25:59,909 information why turn it around and say 609 00:26:04,490 --> 00:26:02,070 well some people are close to it or some 610 00:26:06,590 --> 00:26:04,500 people can't go into a trance State how 611 00:26:10,190 --> 00:26:06,600 in your understanding of it should that 612 00:26:12,590 --> 00:26:10,200 matter why would that matter you know 613 00:26:14,659 --> 00:26:12,600 I'll share a personal story with you 614 00:26:18,500 --> 00:26:14,669 that answers that question 615 00:26:21,769 --> 00:26:18,510 my father died about eight years ago and 616 00:26:24,730 --> 00:26:21,779 after he died I went to a medium who I 617 00:26:27,289 --> 00:26:24,740 thought highly of and she was able to 618 00:26:29,510 --> 00:26:27,299 contact him 619 00:26:31,789 --> 00:26:29,520 it was as though you were in the room 620 00:26:34,490 --> 00:26:31,799 and I was talking to him directly 621 00:26:37,100 --> 00:26:34,500 I took nine pages of notes on the 622 00:26:39,889 --> 00:26:37,110 conversation and then when the session 623 00:26:41,750 --> 00:26:39,899 was over I went to my sister's home and 624 00:26:44,029 --> 00:26:41,760 I read the notes word-for-word to my 625 00:26:48,500 --> 00:26:44,039 sister and my brother-in-law and they 626 00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:48,510 said that's him that's your father then 627 00:26:53,450 --> 00:26:51,330 a couple weeks later they went to see 628 00:26:55,760 --> 00:26:53,460 the same medium in the hope of talking 629 00:26:58,639 --> 00:26:55,770 to him but they don't believe in 630 00:27:00,169 --> 00:26:58,649 mediumship they couldn't explain my 631 00:27:01,039 --> 00:27:00,179 experience but in general they just 632 00:27:05,060 --> 00:27:01,049 don't believe in it 633 00:27:07,250 --> 00:27:05,070 and the medium was not able to contact 634 00:27:09,889 --> 00:27:07,260 my father the session was a complete 635 00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:09,899 disaster and they asked me afterwards 636 00:27:14,630 --> 00:27:11,850 you know how did this work for you and 637 00:27:17,870 --> 00:27:14,640 not work for us and I said well I can't 638 00:27:20,659 --> 00:27:17,880 be sure but I think on some level the 639 00:27:24,470 --> 00:27:20,669 medium probably picked up on your 640 00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:24,480 skepticism and that probably rattled her 641 00:27:27,380 --> 00:27:26,010 a little bit made her a little bit 642 00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:27,390 nervous in other words lowered her 643 00:27:31,940 --> 00:27:30,090 vibration and in order to contact 644 00:27:34,610 --> 00:27:31,950 someone on the other side she has to 645 00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:34,620 raise her vibration the person who's in 646 00:27:38,149 --> 00:27:36,210 spirit lowers theirs and they meet 647 00:27:42,350 --> 00:27:38,159 somewhere in the middle so I think 648 00:27:42,350 --> 00:27:42,360 that's probably what happened 649 00:27:48,259 --> 00:27:46,159 does that answer your question no it 650 00:27:51,259 --> 00:27:48,269 really doesn't because as I explained I 651 00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:51,269 mean you know where there is some 652 00:27:56,360 --> 00:27:54,330 benefit I believe in taking a scientific 653 00:27:59,090 --> 00:27:56,370 approach to this and that's why I keep 654 00:28:01,070 --> 00:27:59,100 referencing you know Julie by shawl and 655 00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:01,080 the university Arizona is where she 656 00:28:03,980 --> 00:28:02,250 started and then she did this work 657 00:28:05,830 --> 00:28:03,990 there's none of that in any other 658 00:28:08,389 --> 00:28:05,840 research they do they don't talk about 659 00:28:10,759 --> 00:28:08,399 vibratory 'old differences and stuff 660 00:28:13,130 --> 00:28:10,769 like that they just do it over and over 661 00:28:15,350 --> 00:28:13,140 and over again and they do this lab work 662 00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:15,360 with mediums and they measure whether or 663 00:28:21,379 --> 00:28:17,610 not they can achieve a certain result I 664 00:28:24,950 --> 00:28:21,389 like that do you find any do you have 665 00:28:28,250 --> 00:28:24,960 any attraction to the scientific 666 00:28:30,740 --> 00:28:28,260 approach to some of this spiritual work 667 00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:30,750 I mean does that do you do you 668 00:28:36,019 --> 00:28:32,850 understand the need that some people 669 00:28:37,700 --> 00:28:36,029 have of trying to resolve some of these 670 00:28:40,370 --> 00:28:37,710 well why does it happen this way why 671 00:28:43,610 --> 00:28:40,380 does it happen that way kind of thing I 672 00:28:45,470 --> 00:28:43,620 do that's why I'm all in favor of those 673 00:28:48,350 --> 00:28:45,480 people who are taking the scientific 674 00:28:50,210 --> 00:28:48,360 approach and I wish them great success 675 00:28:52,639 --> 00:28:50,220 with their work because we do live in a 676 00:28:55,700 --> 00:28:52,649 very rational society especially in the 677 00:29:00,019 --> 00:28:55,710 West and there's a great need for a 678 00:29:03,310 --> 00:29:00,029 bridge between intellect and spirit my 679 00:29:05,779 --> 00:29:03,320 own work though is not in that area I 680 00:29:08,810 --> 00:29:05,789 understand my mission which I believe is 681 00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:08,820 a pre-birth mission is to bring an 682 00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:11,370 understanding of pre-birth planning to 683 00:29:18,919 --> 00:29:14,610 as many people as possible the focus is 684 00:29:22,490 --> 00:29:18,929 on healing spiritual growth and so forth 685 00:29:24,590 --> 00:29:22,500 it's not on proving anything signed 686 00:29:27,110 --> 00:29:24,600 typically I've never attempted to do 687 00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:27,120 that and I don't think that it's my 688 00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:30,330 purpose here but I want to share a story 689 00:29:35,230 --> 00:29:32,010 with you that I think you you may find 690 00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:35,240 very interesting number of years ago I 691 00:29:41,539 --> 00:29:38,610 led a group past life regression at a 692 00:29:44,690 --> 00:29:41,549 conference and two of the participants 693 00:29:46,970 --> 00:29:44,700 in this workshop were sisters the 694 00:29:49,970 --> 00:29:46,980 sisters had a similar experience during 695 00:29:52,399 --> 00:29:49,980 the regression which was they saw images 696 00:29:55,700 --> 00:29:52,409 of a particular past life in their mind 697 00:29:58,549 --> 00:29:55,710 side but it didn't feel quote/unquote 698 00:30:00,919 --> 00:29:58,559 real to either one of them and so by the 699 00:30:02,539 --> 00:30:00,929 time the workshop was over they had both 700 00:30:05,630 --> 00:30:02,549 concluded on their own that they had 701 00:30:06,860 --> 00:30:05,640 simply made up the whole experience but 702 00:30:09,260 --> 00:30:06,870 then they went out to dinner together 703 00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:09,270 and shared their experiences with each 704 00:30:14,180 --> 00:30:11,610 other and what they discovered to their 705 00:30:16,700 --> 00:30:14,190 amazement was that they had both gone 706 00:30:17,870 --> 00:30:16,710 back to exactly the same past life in 707 00:30:21,019 --> 00:30:17,880 which they've been in the family 708 00:30:22,580 --> 00:30:21,029 together now one was the mother and one 709 00:30:24,889 --> 00:30:22,590 was the daughter said they saw it from 710 00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:24,899 different viewpoints but everything they 711 00:30:29,269 --> 00:30:26,850 saw was the same they saw the same 712 00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:29,279 people the same clothing the same home 713 00:30:35,299 --> 00:30:32,730 the same furnishings the same grounds 714 00:30:37,730 --> 00:30:35,309 around the home everything was identical 715 00:30:40,100 --> 00:30:37,740 so that gave them independent 716 00:30:43,460 --> 00:30:40,110 confirmation that it had really come 717 00:30:46,940 --> 00:30:43,470 from spirit not only that a few weeks 718 00:30:50,539 --> 00:30:46,950 later they managed to trace their family 719 00:30:53,810 --> 00:30:50,549 tree back about five generations to a 720 00:30:55,700 --> 00:30:53,820 particular state in England and there 721 00:30:57,409 --> 00:30:55,710 one of the sisters went there and that 722 00:30:59,510 --> 00:30:57,419 she wrote to me and she said Rob the 723 00:31:02,389 --> 00:30:59,520 grounds around this estate are exactly 724 00:31:04,399 --> 00:31:02,399 what I saw in the workshop so then they 725 00:31:07,519 --> 00:31:04,409 had a second independent confirmation 726 00:31:10,430 --> 00:31:07,529 that it had really come from spirit and 727 00:31:13,070 --> 00:31:10,440 just last month I was doing the workshop 728 00:31:15,169 --> 00:31:13,080 in Spain and the same thing happened 729 00:31:16,970 --> 00:31:15,179 again there were two women who are 730 00:31:20,659 --> 00:31:16,980 friends who attended the workshop 731 00:31:23,870 --> 00:31:20,669 together and in the past life portion of 732 00:31:26,779 --> 00:31:23,880 the between lives regression they both 733 00:31:27,799 --> 00:31:26,789 went back to the same past life in which 734 00:31:30,919 --> 00:31:27,809 they were male 735 00:31:34,789 --> 00:31:30,929 they were Vikings and they saw the same 736 00:31:36,409 --> 00:31:34,799 Viking life time in their minds I so 737 00:31:39,950 --> 00:31:36,419 this kind of thing has now happened 738 00:31:43,610 --> 00:31:39,960 twice and I think that's pretty amazing 739 00:31:45,919 --> 00:31:43,620 now I've heard similar kind of accounts 740 00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:45,929 in the research that we've done on the 741 00:31:52,340 --> 00:31:48,210 show but here's the problem I've also 742 00:31:54,230 --> 00:31:52,350 heard differences than that I sent you 743 00:31:59,980 --> 00:31:54,240 some of the links that I did one is dr. 744 00:32:03,919 --> 00:31:59,990 Julia Sante very gifted medium PhD 745 00:32:06,470 --> 00:32:03,929 trained has done thousands and thousands 746 00:32:09,500 --> 00:32:06,480 of readings she's coming back and saying 747 00:32:11,779 --> 00:32:09,510 well our understanding these past slides 748 00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:11,789 isn't what we think they are there the 749 00:32:18,139 --> 00:32:14,730 timeline idea that we have this linear 750 00:32:20,919 --> 00:32:18,149 past life thing isn't what's really 751 00:32:23,779 --> 00:32:20,929 going on we're living simultaneous lives 752 00:32:26,740 --> 00:32:23,789 interviewed another medium I sent you 753 00:32:30,529 --> 00:32:26,750 the link on the show August go forth a 754 00:32:33,980 --> 00:32:30,539 medium I can't speak to how good he is 755 00:32:37,220 --> 00:32:33,990 but you know a lot of people love his 756 00:32:39,500 --> 00:32:37,230 readings no very skeptical of 757 00:32:41,779 --> 00:32:39,510 reincarnation all the work he's done on 758 00:32:45,019 --> 00:32:41,789 the other side makes him very skeptical 759 00:32:46,779 --> 00:32:45,029 that that reincarnation happens at all 760 00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:46,789 you'll talk to other you know 761 00:32:52,250 --> 00:32:50,010 spiritually ascended kind of people 762 00:32:54,740 --> 00:32:52,260 gurus or mystics and they'll tell you 763 00:32:56,960 --> 00:32:54,750 reincarnation works this way or that way 764 00:32:58,940 --> 00:32:56,970 or you'll talk to shaman and they'll say 765 00:33:02,120 --> 00:32:58,950 you know you don't even want to go there 766 00:33:06,159 --> 00:33:02,130 don't even contact your past spirits I 767 00:33:08,899 --> 00:33:06,169 just spoke with a woman who studied this 768 00:33:10,789 --> 00:33:08,909 shamanistic culture in Siberia who are 769 00:33:12,970 --> 00:33:10,799 the original shamans and they say though 770 00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:12,980 you would never want to contact your 771 00:33:17,299 --> 00:33:15,690 this in this case your ancestors which 772 00:33:20,180 --> 00:33:17,309 isn't really your past life thing but 773 00:33:23,419 --> 00:33:20,190 it's like there is a lot of different 774 00:33:24,889 --> 00:33:23,429 information out there and I I can on one 775 00:33:26,419 --> 00:33:24,899 hand understand that you say well that's 776 00:33:28,940 --> 00:33:26,429 not what I've seen that's not what I've 777 00:33:32,509 --> 00:33:28,950 encountered but therein lies the problem 778 00:33:36,259 --> 00:33:32,519 I mean if we're kind of try to navigate 779 00:33:38,049 --> 00:33:36,269 this landscape this topography if we're 780 00:33:41,299 --> 00:33:38,059 trying to map it out and understand 781 00:33:44,570 --> 00:33:41,309 personally how we traverse it then we do 782 00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:44,580 have to you know as that kind of take to 783 00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:47,850 your rational logical side we do have to 784 00:33:52,850 --> 00:33:49,730 kind of sort through this information 785 00:33:55,100 --> 00:33:52,860 the best we can so what do we do with 786 00:33:57,200 --> 00:33:55,110 the differences the the fundamental 787 00:34:00,080 --> 00:33:57,210 differences we we sometimes get back 788 00:34:03,830 --> 00:34:00,090 about what these extended consciousness 789 00:34:06,710 --> 00:34:03,840 realms are well I think what you do 790 00:34:09,770 --> 00:34:06,720 depends upon what your intention is if 791 00:34:13,849 --> 00:34:09,780 you are a researcher whose intention is 792 00:34:16,730 --> 00:34:13,859 to discover absolute truth so to speak 793 00:34:18,950 --> 00:34:16,740 then you continue with the scientific 794 00:34:23,090 --> 00:34:18,960 approach and you try to resolve these 795 00:34:25,570 --> 00:34:23,100 apparent discrepancies if your 796 00:34:29,210 --> 00:34:25,580 someone like me whose intention is to 797 00:34:32,660 --> 00:34:29,220 offer a healing perspective or a 798 00:34:34,670 --> 00:34:32,670 perspective that gives people the deeper 799 00:34:39,020 --> 00:34:34,680 spiritual meaning and purpose of their 800 00:34:40,550 --> 00:34:39,030 biggest challenges then you simply 801 00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:40,560 present the information that comes 802 00:34:45,290 --> 00:34:43,410 through with spirit I'm aware of all the 803 00:34:47,210 --> 00:34:45,300 various viewpoints that you just 804 00:34:48,710 --> 00:34:47,220 mentioned they've all come up at one 805 00:34:51,350 --> 00:34:48,720 point or another in the research I did 806 00:34:53,180 --> 00:34:51,360 for my books but again that has not been 807 00:34:56,030 --> 00:34:53,190 my focus I'm not trying to resolve those 808 00:35:00,890 --> 00:34:56,040 discrepancies I'm focused on the person 809 00:35:03,470 --> 00:35:00,900 whose child has a severe illness or who 810 00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:03,480 has just lost their spouse in a tragic 811 00:35:07,820 --> 00:35:06,210 accident and they're asking how could 812 00:35:09,770 --> 00:35:07,830 this happen what does it mean how do I 813 00:35:12,470 --> 00:35:09,780 heal from this those are the questions 814 00:35:15,590 --> 00:35:12,480 that I'm focused on fair enough 815 00:35:18,350 --> 00:35:15,600 so let's move off of that whole category 816 00:35:20,090 --> 00:35:18,360 because I think there's merit in in what 817 00:35:24,380 --> 00:35:20,100 you're saying and I do appreciate that 818 00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:24,390 you've at least examine that to the 819 00:35:28,340 --> 00:35:26,370 extent that you're open to it and know 820 00:35:31,820 --> 00:35:28,350 that it's out there even if that's not 821 00:35:34,100 --> 00:35:31,830 what you're pursuing right now so let me 822 00:35:36,740 --> 00:35:34,110 kind of approach this whole thing from a 823 00:35:40,130 --> 00:35:36,750 slightly different perspective from your 824 00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:40,140 work from your understanding how do you 825 00:35:43,460 --> 00:35:42,210 understand the differences in these 826 00:35:46,390 --> 00:35:43,470 realms and I'll give you a specific 827 00:35:49,820 --> 00:35:46,400 example let's take that near-death 828 00:35:52,550 --> 00:35:49,830 experience body of work that we get back 829 00:35:57,050 --> 00:35:52,560 and the reports of that how do you 830 00:35:59,330 --> 00:35:57,060 understand the near-death experience in 831 00:36:00,730 --> 00:35:59,340 terms of these extended realms what's 832 00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:00,740 going on there 833 00:36:08,650 --> 00:36:05,370 well let me let me answer by drawing 834 00:36:11,180 --> 00:36:08,660 upon a different subject than MD he's 835 00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:11,190 because I think this will get at one 836 00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:14,490 possible answer to your question you'll 837 00:36:21,020 --> 00:36:16,290 remember that a number of years ago 838 00:36:23,270 --> 00:36:21,030 there was a natural disaster in 839 00:36:25,670 --> 00:36:23,280 Southeast Asia there was a typhoon a 840 00:36:27,130 --> 00:36:25,680 monsoon that killed about a hundred 841 00:36:31,250 --> 00:36:27,140 thousand people 842 00:36:32,750 --> 00:36:31,260 I've asked about that event in the 843 00:36:35,930 --> 00:36:32,760 research I've done for your Souls 844 00:36:38,690 --> 00:36:35,940 planning your souls gift and what 845 00:36:42,859 --> 00:36:38,700 told in the channeling sessions is that 846 00:36:45,710 --> 00:36:42,869 those 100,000 or so souls before they 847 00:36:48,260 --> 00:36:45,720 were born they looked at the earth and 848 00:36:50,359 --> 00:36:48,270 they said basically we would like the 849 00:36:52,339 --> 00:36:50,369 earth as a planet as a whole 850 00:36:54,890 --> 00:36:52,349 to be at a certain frequency or 851 00:36:57,680 --> 00:36:54,900 vibration by a certain point in linear 852 00:37:00,500 --> 00:36:57,690 time and if it looks as though the earth 853 00:37:02,900 --> 00:37:00,510 is not going to get there we agree to 854 00:37:05,720 --> 00:37:02,910 give our lives in a large scale natural 855 00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:05,730 disaster because we know that the result 856 00:37:10,910 --> 00:37:07,890 of that disaster will be a worldwide 857 00:37:13,220 --> 00:37:10,920 outpouring of love and support and aid 858 00:37:15,470 --> 00:37:13,230 and compassion it will elevate the 859 00:37:16,849 --> 00:37:15,480 frequency of the entire planet and you 860 00:37:19,190 --> 00:37:16,859 might remember that's exactly what 861 00:37:21,260 --> 00:37:19,200 happened you had all the governments of 862 00:37:24,529 --> 00:37:21,270 the world temporarily put aside their 863 00:37:26,839 --> 00:37:24,539 differences to funnel aid into Southeast 864 00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:26,849 Asia now why am I talking about this 865 00:37:33,380 --> 00:37:30,930 well if you look at that natural 866 00:37:36,890 --> 00:37:33,390 disaster strictly from a human 867 00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:36,900 standpoint it's obviously a terrible 868 00:37:42,589 --> 00:37:39,210 tragedy hundred thousand people were 869 00:37:45,470 --> 00:37:42,599 killed but if you look at it from the 870 00:37:48,049 --> 00:37:45,480 perspective of say a spirit guide it's 871 00:37:50,510 --> 00:37:48,059 actually a great blessing because again 872 00:37:52,250 --> 00:37:50,520 that outpouring of aid and unconditional 873 00:37:54,380 --> 00:37:52,260 love raised the frequency of the whole 874 00:37:57,829 --> 00:37:54,390 planet so you know there's an old saying 875 00:37:58,519 --> 00:37:57,839 that where you stand depends upon where 876 00:38:04,430 --> 00:37:58,529 you sit 877 00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:04,440 the third dimension as a human being 878 00:38:10,130 --> 00:38:07,770 where you stand on the tsunami is that 879 00:38:12,980 --> 00:38:10,140 it was a terrible tragedy but if where 880 00:38:15,769 --> 00:38:12,990 you sit is in a higher dimension as a 881 00:38:18,019 --> 00:38:15,779 spirit guide than where you stand on the 882 00:38:20,299 --> 00:38:18,029 tsunami is that it was a great blessing 883 00:38:23,059 --> 00:38:20,309 to the world there you have two 884 00:38:25,460 --> 00:38:23,069 diametrically opposed viewpoints and yet 885 00:38:29,120 --> 00:38:25,470 both are correct from the vantage point 886 00:38:31,220 --> 00:38:29,130 of the observer this I think is why we 887 00:38:33,140 --> 00:38:31,230 have a lot of these discrepancies that 888 00:38:36,620 --> 00:38:33,150 are very difficult to answer when we 889 00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:36,630 research phenomena like MDEs 890 00:38:42,319 --> 00:38:40,130 or reincarnation because you have 891 00:38:44,390 --> 00:38:42,329 diametrically opposed viewpoints 892 00:38:46,849 --> 00:38:44,400 depending upon which dimension you're in 893 00:38:49,130 --> 00:38:46,859 and yet even though they're doing that 894 00:38:49,820 --> 00:38:49,140 diametrically opposed they're still 895 00:38:53,210 --> 00:38:49,830 correct 896 00:38:55,070 --> 00:38:53,220 the vantage point of the observer yeah 897 00:38:57,980 --> 00:38:55,080 that's troubling it I don't I just don't 898 00:39:02,960 --> 00:38:57,990 see how that gets us anywhere I mean you 899 00:39:05,870 --> 00:39:02,970 can go look today at the effects of the 900 00:39:08,930 --> 00:39:05,880 tsunami that are still there that have 901 00:39:11,780 --> 00:39:08,940 devastated some of these countries these 902 00:39:14,510 --> 00:39:11,790 islands and will for the foreseeable 903 00:39:16,670 --> 00:39:14,520 future because the aid was siphoned off 904 00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:16,680 and went to the wrong people and or 905 00:39:21,890 --> 00:39:19,050 wasn't enough or that you know people 906 00:39:24,710 --> 00:39:21,900 forget after the two or three week aid 907 00:39:26,960 --> 00:39:24,720 drive so you know the misery that's been 908 00:39:28,640 --> 00:39:26,970 perpetuated on for generations and 909 00:39:30,860 --> 00:39:28,650 generations of that well we can just 910 00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:30,870 explain that away is you know someone 911 00:39:33,680 --> 00:39:33,090 signed up for that and well that's all 912 00:39:35,690 --> 00:39:33,690 okay 913 00:39:37,430 --> 00:39:35,700 I mean it's never-ending and you can 914 00:39:38,960 --> 00:39:37,440 kind of take it and pull it apart in any 915 00:39:41,540 --> 00:39:38,970 way you want or you could look at the 916 00:39:45,410 --> 00:39:41,550 failure of the systems that we have in 917 00:39:47,360 --> 00:39:45,420 place to warn people about tsunamis and 918 00:39:48,980 --> 00:39:47,370 how that system failed and maybe that's 919 00:39:51,320 --> 00:39:48,990 been improved and maybe that was the 920 00:39:53,360 --> 00:39:51,330 purpose of it I mean I think for a lot 921 00:39:57,770 --> 00:39:53,370 of people including myself that's just 922 00:39:59,860 --> 00:39:57,780 an unsatisfying answer that and it the 923 00:40:02,330 --> 00:39:59,870 only thing that kind of halfway 924 00:40:03,920 --> 00:40:02,340 legitimizes it is this answer that oh it 925 00:40:06,860 --> 00:40:03,930 came from spirit or was somehow 926 00:40:09,710 --> 00:40:06,870 channeled and I'm not sure that holds up 927 00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:09,720 to scrutiny I mean again because there's 928 00:40:14,240 --> 00:40:11,970 contradictions and there's trickster 929 00:40:16,070 --> 00:40:14,250 elements to it and can we really here's 930 00:40:19,730 --> 00:40:16,080 a question I guess when that side that 931 00:40:22,010 --> 00:40:19,740 rant can we really trust what spirits 932 00:40:24,380 --> 00:40:22,020 tell us all the time given that we have 933 00:40:28,520 --> 00:40:24,390 some indication that sometimes spirits 934 00:40:30,770 --> 00:40:28,530 are deceiving people well that question 935 00:40:33,170 --> 00:40:30,780 is you have to be discerning it's a 936 00:40:36,140 --> 00:40:33,180 well-known phenomenon that there are 937 00:40:39,950 --> 00:40:36,150 lower vibrational beings in the lower 938 00:40:42,890 --> 00:40:39,960 astral realms who will sometimes 939 00:40:44,930 --> 00:40:42,900 misrepresent themselves as ascended or 940 00:40:48,050 --> 00:40:44,940 enlightened beings and they are 941 00:40:52,270 --> 00:40:48,060 tricksters as you said their intention 942 00:40:55,300 --> 00:40:52,280 is not Noble it's to wreak havoc with 943 00:40:57,920 --> 00:40:55,310 unsuspecting people who believe their 944 00:41:00,380 --> 00:40:57,930 misrepresentations so in the research 945 00:41:03,170 --> 00:41:00,390 that I did for my two books I had a 946 00:41:06,230 --> 00:41:03,180 number of personal sessions with ever 947 00:41:08,720 --> 00:41:06,240 medium in channel before I chose those I 948 00:41:11,450 --> 00:41:08,730 wanted to work with and the ones I chose 949 00:41:14,780 --> 00:41:11,460 were those who could bring forward 950 00:41:17,930 --> 00:41:14,790 information consistently that I knew to 951 00:41:20,270 --> 00:41:17,940 be accurate about my own life and again 952 00:41:21,920 --> 00:41:20,280 I had not told them anything before we 953 00:41:24,920 --> 00:41:21,930 did these sessions they obtained this 954 00:41:27,260 --> 00:41:24,930 information on their own so I felt very 955 00:41:28,549 --> 00:41:27,270 comfortable that those people were the 956 00:41:31,339 --> 00:41:28,559 best of the best there were a number of 957 00:41:33,589 --> 00:41:31,349 others who I did these trial sessions 958 00:41:35,450 --> 00:41:33,599 with and I thought no this you know 959 00:41:37,880 --> 00:41:35,460 there's really nothing here that makes 960 00:41:40,040 --> 00:41:37,890 me want to work with this person but the 961 00:41:42,380 --> 00:41:40,050 ones that I eventually chose I believe 962 00:41:45,140 --> 00:41:42,390 to be very very good they knew many 963 00:41:46,849 --> 00:41:45,150 things about me that they could have no 964 00:41:50,540 --> 00:41:46,859 other way of knowing unless Spirit were 965 00:41:53,059 --> 00:41:50,550 really communicating with them you know 966 00:41:56,750 --> 00:41:53,069 just recently I interviewed a gentleman 967 00:41:59,120 --> 00:41:56,760 Oxford philosopher and very accomplished 968 00:42:02,660 --> 00:41:59,130 in the publishing world has edited and 969 00:42:04,790 --> 00:42:02,670 helped publish oh just many many 970 00:42:07,579 --> 00:42:04,800 best-selling important books his name is 971 00:42:08,720 --> 00:42:07,589 Mark booth and his own book the secret 972 00:42:11,030 --> 00:42:08,730 history of the world was an 973 00:42:13,059 --> 00:42:11,040 international bestseller he's really 974 00:42:15,500 --> 00:42:13,069 educating himself in a lot of this 975 00:42:18,470 --> 00:42:15,510 esoteric secret knowledge and claims to 976 00:42:21,799 --> 00:42:18,480 know a lot through people who have 977 00:42:25,940 --> 00:42:21,809 direct communication with these ascended 978 00:42:29,420 --> 00:42:25,950 masters and he comes back with a very 979 00:42:31,849 --> 00:42:29,430 Christian version of things I also had a 980 00:42:35,329 --> 00:42:31,859 similar experience with an out-of-body 981 00:42:38,710 --> 00:42:35,339 traveler medium that I worked through a 982 00:42:41,599 --> 00:42:38,720 demonstration experiment on this show 983 00:42:45,620 --> 00:42:41,609 Marilyn Hughes and I have to tell you 984 00:42:47,900 --> 00:42:45,630 rot she was extremely effective in the 985 00:42:50,630 --> 00:42:47,910 tests that we did there was this woman 986 00:42:55,819 --> 00:42:50,640 who had lost her daughter to suicide as 987 00:42:58,880 --> 00:42:55,829 a teenager and Marilyn's method is as 988 00:43:01,520 --> 00:42:58,890 she claims it means she prays to God and 989 00:43:04,069 --> 00:43:01,530 to Jesus before she goes to bed and 990 00:43:06,799 --> 00:43:04,079 during her sleep she out-of-body travels 991 00:43:11,270 --> 00:43:06,809 to these other realms she was able to 992 00:43:13,400 --> 00:43:11,280 find this young woman in this kind of 993 00:43:16,310 --> 00:43:13,410 rather dark realm in this confused realm 994 00:43:17,870 --> 00:43:16,320 she's able to get some very 995 00:43:20,570 --> 00:43:17,880 you never get information confirming 996 00:43:22,730 --> 00:43:20,580 information and I was the proxy sitter 997 00:43:24,530 --> 00:43:22,740 so I was giving her no information but I 998 00:43:27,110 --> 00:43:24,540 was funneling the information back to 999 00:43:28,730 --> 00:43:27,120 her mother and her mother was like oh my 1000 00:43:30,790 --> 00:43:28,740 gosh how could she know this this is 1001 00:43:34,070 --> 00:43:30,800 right on the whole process was extremely 1002 00:43:37,400 --> 00:43:34,080 healing to hopefully to both sides I 1003 00:43:39,140 --> 00:43:37,410 don't know about the woman who was 1004 00:43:41,720 --> 00:43:39,150 deceased but certainly healing for the 1005 00:43:45,130 --> 00:43:41,730 mother in the family but a strong 1006 00:43:48,650 --> 00:43:45,140 Christian overlay on this thing a strong 1007 00:43:51,440 --> 00:43:48,660 set of beliefs and assumptions about how 1008 00:43:55,460 --> 00:43:51,450 the world works that is again different 1009 00:43:59,300 --> 00:43:55,470 from some other folks so what are we to 1010 00:44:02,420 --> 00:43:59,310 make of the religious aspect that some 1011 00:44:05,720 --> 00:44:02,430 people associate with this kind of work 1012 00:44:11,150 --> 00:44:05,730 and is should that it all be a guide or 1013 00:44:13,610 --> 00:44:11,160 a caution to doing this work well I I 1014 00:44:16,220 --> 00:44:13,620 don't know what the particular religious 1015 00:44:18,980 --> 00:44:16,230 beliefs are of the two individuals you 1016 00:44:21,290 --> 00:44:18,990 just mentioned but my understanding in 1017 00:44:25,150 --> 00:44:21,300 general is that belief is a very 1018 00:44:28,310 --> 00:44:25,160 powerful creative force there are 1019 00:44:31,100 --> 00:44:28,320 subatomic particles that in some circles 1020 00:44:33,460 --> 00:44:31,110 are referred to as trilliums and it's 1021 00:44:35,990 --> 00:44:33,470 believed that they rearrange themselves 1022 00:44:38,450 --> 00:44:36,000 according to a person's belief system in 1023 00:44:40,940 --> 00:44:38,460 other words matter is rearranging itself 1024 00:44:44,720 --> 00:44:40,950 according to a person's belief system 1025 00:44:46,340 --> 00:44:44,730 the implication of that is that everyone 1026 00:44:49,250 --> 00:44:46,350 is going to have that experience of 1027 00:44:53,180 --> 00:44:49,260 being right their beliefs are going to 1028 00:44:54,800 --> 00:44:53,190 draw to them evidence that seems to 1029 00:44:56,270 --> 00:44:54,810 confirm on the surface that their 1030 00:44:59,750 --> 00:44:56,280 beliefs are correct 1031 00:45:02,000 --> 00:44:59,760 so this is a very powerful phenomenon as 1032 00:45:03,890 --> 00:45:02,010 I understand it and it's something that 1033 00:45:06,080 --> 00:45:03,900 I think all of us need to be aware of 1034 00:45:09,410 --> 00:45:06,090 especially those of us who are doing 1035 00:45:11,330 --> 00:45:09,420 research in any particular field okay so 1036 00:45:13,070 --> 00:45:11,340 I was kind of waiting so I thought you 1037 00:45:15,860 --> 00:45:13,080 were gonna add something to that well 1038 00:45:19,280 --> 00:45:15,870 wouldn't that equally apply to your work 1039 00:45:21,680 --> 00:45:19,290 and life planning in between lives and 1040 00:45:25,400 --> 00:45:21,690 all that I mean right it does it 1041 00:45:28,310 --> 00:45:25,410 absolutely does but again since I'm not 1042 00:45:32,960 --> 00:45:28,320 endeavoring to prove anything scientific 1043 00:45:35,600 --> 00:45:32,970 claim it's its again the focus is on 1044 00:45:38,660 --> 00:45:35,610 healing understanding spiritual growth 1045 00:45:40,960 --> 00:45:38,670 and so forth I'm aware of this 1046 00:45:44,390 --> 00:45:40,970 phenomenon I know that it's very strong 1047 00:45:46,700 --> 00:45:44,400 but since I'm not attempting to persuade 1048 00:45:48,710 --> 00:45:46,710 anyone of anything or prove anything in 1049 00:45:50,810 --> 00:45:48,720 a scientific way 1050 00:45:54,110 --> 00:45:50,820 I think it's sufficient for me simply to 1051 00:45:55,910 --> 00:45:54,120 be aware of it but those who are in the 1052 00:45:58,910 --> 00:45:55,920 scientific realm were trying to prove 1053 00:46:01,940 --> 00:45:58,920 something in the scientific way there it 1054 00:46:03,890 --> 00:46:01,950 has much more profound implications I'm 1055 00:46:06,590 --> 00:46:03,900 not sure exactly what a scientific 1056 00:46:08,690 --> 00:46:06,600 researcher could or should do about it 1057 00:46:11,720 --> 00:46:08,700 other than to be aware of it and how 1058 00:46:13,190 --> 00:46:11,730 strong it is though I would completely 1059 00:46:15,950 --> 00:46:13,200 agree and I think it's a really 1060 00:46:19,370 --> 00:46:15,960 important point and I'm glad you made it 1061 00:46:22,570 --> 00:46:19,380 and I respect how you're wrestling with 1062 00:46:24,920 --> 00:46:22,580 it if I understand you correctly because 1063 00:46:27,440 --> 00:46:24,930 let me see if I got that but what you 1064 00:46:28,850 --> 00:46:27,450 said is yeah there may be be this I 1065 00:46:31,490 --> 00:46:28,860 think the Buddhists call it like the 1066 00:46:35,750 --> 00:46:31,500 tapa kind of thought-form thing where we 1067 00:46:40,160 --> 00:46:35,760 are creating our reality all the time as 1068 00:46:43,280 --> 00:46:40,170 we go all and and everything is a kind 1069 00:46:45,770 --> 00:46:43,290 of creation and that therefore if we 1070 00:46:47,720 --> 00:46:45,780 want to see past lives we can see past 1071 00:46:49,880 --> 00:46:47,730 lives if we want to see between lives we 1072 00:46:52,730 --> 00:46:49,890 can see between lives and we'll never 1073 00:46:55,430 --> 00:46:52,740 know at the very least we'll never know 1074 00:46:58,250 --> 00:46:55,440 the quote-unquote reality of that but at 1075 00:47:02,780 --> 00:46:58,260 another reality whatever is being 1076 00:47:06,530 --> 00:47:02,790 created is for our betterment in terms 1077 00:47:09,440 --> 00:47:06,540 of our souls kind of path evolution 1078 00:47:11,630 --> 00:47:09,450 journey am I kind of on the right track 1079 00:47:13,760 --> 00:47:11,640 or am I just Worth's a living this whole 1080 00:47:17,150 --> 00:47:13,770 thing you know I think that is very much 1081 00:47:18,980 --> 00:47:17,160 on the right track and and this is 1082 00:47:21,920 --> 00:47:18,990 something that I talk about in the 1083 00:47:23,600 --> 00:47:21,930 lectures and the workshops I do the the 1084 00:47:26,810 --> 00:47:23,610 third dimension the world that we live 1085 00:47:29,180 --> 00:47:26,820 in is set up to mirror you back to you 1086 00:47:31,130 --> 00:47:29,190 that is a fundamental function of life 1087 00:47:33,260 --> 00:47:31,140 in the third dimension the world is 1088 00:47:35,420 --> 00:47:33,270 organized to mirror you back to you so 1089 00:47:37,700 --> 00:47:35,430 that you can discover what lies within 1090 00:47:39,710 --> 00:47:37,710 your consciousness even if it's at the 1091 00:47:41,320 --> 00:47:39,720 subconscious level and if there's 1092 00:47:43,300 --> 00:47:41,330 something there that's in need of you 1093 00:47:45,790 --> 00:47:43,310 you can then bring it to the light of 1094 00:47:48,490 --> 00:47:45,800 conscious awareness or you can then set 1095 00:47:53,050 --> 00:47:48,500 about healing it the way this shows up 1096 00:47:55,870 --> 00:47:53,060 in my work is that just about everybody 1097 00:47:58,600 --> 00:47:55,880 has had at least one past life and 1098 00:48:01,330 --> 00:47:58,610 usually multiple past lives in my belief 1099 00:48:04,330 --> 00:48:01,340 system in which certain things happened 1100 00:48:06,760 --> 00:48:04,340 that caused them to pick up a false 1101 00:48:09,550 --> 00:48:06,770 belief or a false feeling about 1102 00:48:11,280 --> 00:48:09,560 themselves by false I mean it falls from 1103 00:48:14,410 --> 00:48:11,290 the perspective of their soul 1104 00:48:18,010 --> 00:48:14,420 two of the most common false beliefs are 1105 00:48:20,560 --> 00:48:18,020 one that one is powerless and two that 1106 00:48:23,320 --> 00:48:20,570 one is unworthy or perhaps even 1107 00:48:25,960 --> 00:48:23,330 worthless if you feel or believe 1108 00:48:28,480 --> 00:48:25,970 yourself to be powerless or unworthy or 1109 00:48:31,860 --> 00:48:28,490 worthless what will happen is you will 1110 00:48:34,450 --> 00:48:31,870 magnetize or draw to yourself 1111 00:48:36,250 --> 00:48:34,460 experiences that seem on the surface to 1112 00:48:40,540 --> 00:48:36,260 confirm to you that you are in fact 1113 00:48:43,420 --> 00:48:40,550 powerless or unworthy or worthless this 1114 00:48:45,130 --> 00:48:43,430 is not done in a punitive way it's not 1115 00:48:48,520 --> 00:48:45,140 done to be harsh even though it might 1116 00:48:50,740 --> 00:48:48,530 sound that way the reason it happens 1117 00:48:53,590 --> 00:48:50,750 again is that the world mirrors you back 1118 00:48:55,990 --> 00:48:53,600 to you so if you have one of these false 1119 00:48:57,160 --> 00:48:56,000 beliefs or feelings about yourself you 1120 00:48:59,140 --> 00:48:57,170 can then bring it to the light of 1121 00:49:02,230 --> 00:48:59,150 conscious awareness where you can then 1122 00:49:06,160 --> 00:49:02,240 set about healing it that's what I think 1123 00:49:08,290 --> 00:49:06,170 is happening with that interesting you 1124 00:49:10,780 --> 00:49:08,300 know I really appreciate your openness 1125 00:49:13,480 --> 00:49:10,790 and your willingness to kind of handle 1126 00:49:15,250 --> 00:49:13,490 these these questions that a lot of 1127 00:49:17,320 --> 00:49:15,260 people just kind of shut down or they 1128 00:49:21,450 --> 00:49:17,330 kind of draw into their shell or you 1129 00:49:25,050 --> 00:49:21,460 know just show that they're not open to 1130 00:49:27,700 --> 00:49:25,060 the kind of exploration that I think is 1131 00:49:29,980 --> 00:49:27,710 at the core of this work anyway I mean 1132 00:49:31,900 --> 00:49:29,990 if we are discovering our spiritual 1133 00:49:35,290 --> 00:49:31,910 journey then I don't understand why 1134 00:49:37,840 --> 00:49:35,300 people aren't open to looking at all 1135 00:49:39,850 --> 00:49:37,850 different aspects of the problem so I 1136 00:49:42,820 --> 00:49:39,860 really commend you for that let me kind 1137 00:49:45,340 --> 00:49:42,830 of a as we wrap this up let me come up 1138 00:49:48,340 --> 00:49:45,350 one other issue that is just kind of a 1139 00:49:50,050 --> 00:49:48,350 curiosity it's more of a curiosity issue 1140 00:49:51,670 --> 00:49:50,060 I think there's something here that I'm 1141 00:49:54,160 --> 00:49:51,680 trying to drill into but I'm just asking 1142 00:49:54,970 --> 00:49:54,170 you from your experience from your work 1143 00:49:57,310 --> 00:49:54,980 from the stuff 1144 00:50:01,530 --> 00:49:57,320 if you've seen and done do you think 1145 00:50:04,390 --> 00:50:01,540 there's a technological or biological 1146 00:50:07,540 --> 00:50:04,400 aspect to spirit communication are we 1147 00:50:10,660 --> 00:50:07,550 gonna see it on our iPhone oh do we see 1148 00:50:13,090 --> 00:50:10,670 it in consciousness from other planets 1149 00:50:16,420 --> 00:50:13,100 who are more advanced we see it an ET 1150 00:50:19,080 --> 00:50:16,430 you know is there a technological 1151 00:50:21,240 --> 00:50:19,090 biological aspect of this stuff I 1152 00:50:24,430 --> 00:50:21,250 believe that there's definitely a 1153 00:50:27,730 --> 00:50:24,440 biological aspect this is a little bit 1154 00:50:30,700 --> 00:50:27,740 beyond my area of expertise but for 1155 00:50:33,280 --> 00:50:30,710 example the pineal gland is very 1156 00:50:36,609 --> 00:50:33,290 important in terms of connection with 1157 00:50:39,070 --> 00:50:36,619 spirit the chakra system which is well 1158 00:50:42,450 --> 00:50:39,080 known and quite an ancient system of 1159 00:50:45,520 --> 00:50:42,460 understanding I think is very important 1160 00:50:47,680 --> 00:50:45,530 there are as I understand it several 1161 00:50:50,620 --> 00:50:47,690 etheric bodies surrounding the physical 1162 00:50:53,349 --> 00:50:50,630 body so from the physical body moving 1163 00:50:55,240 --> 00:50:53,359 outward the next layer is the emotional 1164 00:50:58,210 --> 00:50:55,250 body than the mental body and then the 1165 00:51:00,310 --> 00:50:58,220 spiritual body and there are bodies a 1166 00:51:01,750 --> 00:51:00,320 channelled literature that explain what 1167 00:51:04,780 --> 00:51:01,760 happened to what happens to those 1168 00:51:06,880 --> 00:51:04,790 different bodies after you die and as 1169 00:51:09,310 --> 00:51:06,890 you move up through the dimensions you 1170 00:51:13,180 --> 00:51:09,320 shed them until eventually you have only 1171 00:51:15,730 --> 00:51:13,190 the spiritual body left in terms of 1172 00:51:18,280 --> 00:51:15,740 Technology I think the really 1173 00:51:20,380 --> 00:51:18,290 interesting question there is what will 1174 00:51:24,520 --> 00:51:20,390 be the connection years down the road 1175 00:51:27,300 --> 00:51:24,530 between AI and spirit because spirit as 1176 00:51:30,790 --> 00:51:27,310 I understand it loves to move into form 1177 00:51:34,030 --> 00:51:30,800 form meaning the physical realm right 1178 00:51:36,460 --> 00:51:34,040 now spirit has moved into physical human 1179 00:51:39,490 --> 00:51:36,470 bodies and also plant and animal and 1180 00:51:42,190 --> 00:51:39,500 insect bodies but it won't be long until 1181 00:51:45,700 --> 00:51:42,200 we have various forms of artificial 1182 00:51:49,270 --> 00:51:45,710 intelligence and what will happen in his 1183 00:51:51,099 --> 00:51:49,280 spirit going to move into a robot I 1184 00:51:53,490 --> 00:51:51,109 don't know the answer to that question 1185 00:51:56,620 --> 00:51:53,500 but it will be fascinating to find out 1186 00:51:58,630 --> 00:51:56,630 it will and you know even closer to the 1187 00:52:02,380 --> 00:51:58,640 horizon what is going to happen when we 1188 00:52:04,260 --> 00:52:02,390 transplant a human head as that guy and 1189 00:52:07,390 --> 00:52:04,270 I forget his name that guy in Italy that 1190 00:52:08,870 --> 00:52:07,400 neurosurgeon is planning to do either 1191 00:52:10,940 --> 00:52:08,880 this year or next year 1192 00:52:12,700 --> 00:52:10,950 you know what's going to happen there in 1193 00:52:15,920 --> 00:52:12,710 terms of the connection between our 1194 00:52:18,559 --> 00:52:15,930 physical body or physical brain and 1195 00:52:21,710 --> 00:52:18,569 consciousness but these are fascinating 1196 00:52:23,390 --> 00:52:21,720 questions and you know it's a whole new 1197 00:52:25,160 --> 00:52:23,400 world out there we're gonna be moving 1198 00:52:26,870 --> 00:52:25,170 into all these new areas like the one 1199 00:52:30,349 --> 00:52:26,880 you just mentioned like artificial 1200 00:52:33,229 --> 00:52:30,359 intelligence and I'm not sure what the 1201 00:52:36,019 --> 00:52:33,239 intersection is between spirit and those 1202 00:52:38,660 --> 00:52:36,029 things is going to look like but we're 1203 00:52:40,910 --> 00:52:38,670 going to see some of it in our lifetime 1204 00:52:44,269 --> 00:52:40,920 and I think it's it's going to be 1205 00:52:45,769 --> 00:52:44,279 fascinating to see what develops and 1206 00:52:47,960 --> 00:52:45,779 what about ET you know I just 1207 00:52:51,410 --> 00:52:47,970 interviewed a very gifted medium named 1208 00:52:53,900 --> 00:52:51,420 Marissa Ryan you know 90% of her work is 1209 00:52:55,849 --> 00:52:53,910 with after-death communication for the 1210 00:52:57,799 --> 00:52:55,859 grieving again another win Bridge 1211 00:52:59,660 --> 00:52:57,809 Institute certified medium highly 1212 00:53:01,609 --> 00:52:59,670 skilled but I wanted to talk to her 1213 00:53:04,009 --> 00:53:01,619 because in one of her presentations she 1214 00:53:05,870 --> 00:53:04,019 just she's just like a super open person 1215 00:53:07,640 --> 00:53:05,880 just she just does these readings 1216 00:53:10,099 --> 00:53:07,650 publicly sometimes and says whatever 1217 00:53:11,630 --> 00:53:10,109 comes up she goes the guy asks about et 1218 00:53:12,710 --> 00:53:11,640 and she goes well I think you're being 1219 00:53:14,469 --> 00:53:12,720 followed I don't think you're being 1220 00:53:16,910 --> 00:53:14,479 tracked and there definitely is 1221 00:53:20,059 --> 00:53:16,920 intelligent spirit from other planets 1222 00:53:22,130 --> 00:53:20,069 that did they do choose to interact at 1223 00:53:24,469 --> 00:53:22,140 times down here and people can be 1224 00:53:26,890 --> 00:53:24,479 reincarnated on different planets in 1225 00:53:30,589 --> 00:53:26,900 different lives do you have any 1226 00:53:36,289 --> 00:53:30,599 knowledge experience with with the et 1227 00:53:38,959 --> 00:53:36,299 question only minimal earlier this year 1228 00:53:41,299 --> 00:53:38,969 I was you know Australia to speak at a 1229 00:53:45,160 --> 00:53:41,309 spirituality conference that was running 1230 00:53:49,130 --> 00:53:45,170 side-by-side with an 18 conference and 1231 00:53:52,819 --> 00:53:49,140 during one of the breaks I was standing 1232 00:53:54,620 --> 00:53:52,829 outside close to the beach with a group 1233 00:53:56,749 --> 00:53:54,630 of people who were attending the et 1234 00:54:00,589 --> 00:53:56,759 conference and for the first time in my 1235 00:54:03,259 --> 00:54:00,599 life I saw what I considered to be an 1236 00:54:06,380 --> 00:54:03,269 unidentified flying object or actually 1237 00:54:09,849 --> 00:54:06,390 objects in the sky they were points of 1238 00:54:12,529 --> 00:54:09,859 light but they were moving so fast and 1239 00:54:14,450 --> 00:54:12,539 and at 90 degree angles they would go in 1240 00:54:17,809 --> 00:54:14,460 one direction then suddenly shift at the 1241 00:54:20,390 --> 00:54:17,819 same speed to move 90 degrees in another 1242 00:54:22,380 --> 00:54:20,400 direction I had never seen anything like 1243 00:54:25,170 --> 00:54:22,390 that in my life before 1244 00:54:28,500 --> 00:54:25,180 all the people at the PT conference were 1245 00:54:31,440 --> 00:54:28,510 saying that this was a demonstration the 1246 00:54:33,800 --> 00:54:31,450 ETS were given to them as a way of 1247 00:54:36,660 --> 00:54:33,810 confirming their belief in 1248 00:54:38,850 --> 00:54:36,670 extraterrestrials who knows what the 1249 00:54:41,030 --> 00:54:38,860 intention was on the part of whoever was 1250 00:54:44,640 --> 00:54:41,040 doing this but it sure looked like 1251 00:54:46,770 --> 00:54:44,650 unidentified flying objects to me Rob 1252 00:54:49,350 --> 00:54:46,780 what are some of the most common reasons 1253 00:54:50,490 --> 00:54:49,360 that people seek your help they hear an 1254 00:54:53,760 --> 00:54:50,500 interview like this 1255 00:54:56,550 --> 00:54:53,770 what is them what is it that sparks them 1256 00:54:58,080 --> 00:54:56,560 to say okay I have to do this I have to 1257 00:55:01,200 --> 00:54:58,090 get a session with Rob I have to figure 1258 00:55:03,990 --> 00:55:01,210 out more the people who come to me for 1259 00:55:05,700 --> 00:55:04,000 between life regression usually fall 1260 00:55:08,730 --> 00:55:05,710 into one of two categories the first 1261 00:55:11,400 --> 00:55:08,740 category is the general spiritual 1262 00:55:14,910 --> 00:55:11,410 Explorer this is someone who is on a 1263 00:55:17,160 --> 00:55:14,920 conscious spiritual path they want very 1264 00:55:19,170 --> 00:55:17,170 much to learn and grow as much as they 1265 00:55:20,880 --> 00:55:19,180 can over this lifetime to make the best 1266 00:55:24,180 --> 00:55:20,890 possible use of whatever their time 1267 00:55:25,770 --> 00:55:24,190 they're on planet earth and so they want 1268 00:55:28,170 --> 00:55:25,780 to talk to the council of elders in 1269 00:55:30,540 --> 00:55:28,180 in-between lives agression to ask what 1270 00:55:33,420 --> 00:55:30,550 did I plan for this lifetime what is my 1271 00:55:36,240 --> 00:55:33,430 purpose how am i doing in fulfilling my 1272 00:55:39,030 --> 00:55:36,250 plan how can I do better the second 1273 00:55:41,430 --> 00:55:39,040 group of people are those I referred to 1274 00:55:44,220 --> 00:55:41,440 earlier who have had something difficult 1275 00:55:47,310 --> 00:55:44,230 happen they've had some kind of major 1276 00:55:48,900 --> 00:55:47,320 challenge or tragedy they're trying to 1277 00:55:51,690 --> 00:55:48,910 heal from it they're also trying to 1278 00:55:54,150 --> 00:55:51,700 understand it they want to ask the 1279 00:55:56,880 --> 00:55:54,160 council did I plan this before I was 1280 00:56:00,180 --> 00:55:56,890 born if I did why in the world did I do 1281 00:56:02,790 --> 00:56:00,190 that and how can I respond to this 1282 00:56:05,490 --> 00:56:02,800 challenge now in a way that brings 1283 00:56:08,070 --> 00:56:05,500 healing and light to myself and the 1284 00:56:10,140 --> 00:56:08,080 other people in my life and those are 1285 00:56:13,830 --> 00:56:10,150 the kinds of questions that the council 1286 00:56:15,750 --> 00:56:13,840 of elders loves to answer right so how 1287 00:56:17,490 --> 00:56:15,760 do people find out more obviously your 1288 00:56:20,430 --> 00:56:17,500 books are probably a starting point but 1289 00:56:23,880 --> 00:56:20,440 also through your website right the 1290 00:56:26,250 --> 00:56:23,890 website is your souls plan com again if 1291 00:56:28,470 --> 00:56:26,260 you go to the books pages in the main 1292 00:56:31,800 --> 00:56:28,480 menu can read parts of the books for 1293 00:56:34,410 --> 00:56:31,810 free if you click on store and then on 1294 00:56:35,820 --> 00:56:34,420 spiritual guidance you'll see all the 1295 00:56:38,100 --> 00:56:35,830 different types of sessions 1296 00:56:40,440 --> 00:56:38,110 I offer and then if you click on those 1297 00:56:43,350 --> 00:56:40,450 you can read about each individual 1298 00:56:45,390 --> 00:56:43,360 session time awesome well it's been just 1299 00:56:48,180 --> 00:56:45,400 great having you on again our guest has 1300 00:56:50,730 --> 00:56:48,190 been Robert Schwartz please check out 1301 00:56:55,080 --> 00:56:50,740 his books and his excellent website at 1302 00:56:59,910 --> 00:56:55,090 your soles plan.com Rob thanks again for 1303 00:57:01,590 --> 00:56:59,920 joining me in my pleasure thanks again 1304 00:57:04,110 --> 00:57:01,600 to Rob Schwartzman earning me today on 1305 00:57:07,950 --> 00:57:04,120 skeptic oh the question I tee up from 1306 00:57:12,090 --> 00:57:07,960 this interview is do you believe we plan 1307 00:57:14,100 --> 00:57:12,100 our lives between lives yes no maybe 1308 00:57:17,330 --> 00:57:14,110 sometimes wait take maybe out of there I 1309 00:57:19,770 --> 00:57:17,340 hate maybe yes no sometimes always 1310 00:57:21,660 --> 00:57:19,780 there's a ton to pull apart here and 1311 00:57:24,630 --> 00:57:21,670 there's many more questions to ask that 1312 00:57:26,250 --> 00:57:24,640 I didn't ask so straighten me out tell 1313 00:57:28,260 --> 00:57:26,260 me where I'm wrong point me to other 1314 00:57:31,410 --> 00:57:28,270 people that have investigated this and 1315 00:57:33,390 --> 00:57:31,420 have come to better conclusions by the 1316 00:57:35,730 --> 00:57:33,400 way I feel I can reach out and directly 1317 00:57:39,240 --> 00:57:35,740 ask you to do that because since I put 1318 00:57:42,240 --> 00:57:39,250 the call out a couple of episodes ago so 1319 00:57:44,460 --> 00:57:42,250 many of you have reached out to connect 1320 00:57:47,370 --> 00:57:44,470 with me share your thoughts share your 1321 00:57:49,410 --> 00:57:47,380 comments share your projects it's so 1322 00:57:51,990 --> 00:57:49,420 gratifying and I don't want you to stop 1323 00:57:55,800 --> 00:57:52,000 tell me what you think tell me how you 1324 00:57:58,620 --> 00:57:55,810 connect to this information so we you 1325 00:58:01,410 --> 00:57:58,630 and I can better understand why and how 1326 00:58:05,010 --> 00:58:01,420 this magical thing has happened I'm 1327 00:58:08,730 --> 00:58:05,020 sitting here alone in my office talking 1328 00:58:11,760 --> 00:58:08,740 into this mic and somehow you found it 1329 00:58:14,430 --> 00:58:11,770 on the other end and it's connected with 1330 00:58:17,310 --> 00:58:14,440 you you know I recently had a skeptical 1331 00:58:19,230 --> 00:58:17,320 listener ping me and say hey you know I 1332 00:58:21,720 --> 00:58:19,240 don't live by you but I'm gonna be in 1333 00:58:24,270 --> 00:58:21,730 your area I'm visiting is there any way 1334 00:58:26,100 --> 00:58:24,280 we could get together for coffee we 1335 00:58:28,230 --> 00:58:26,110 wound up taking a walk on the beach near 1336 00:58:30,240 --> 00:58:28,240 where I live and the first thing he said 1337 00:58:32,850 --> 00:58:30,250 was there's no one I can talk to about 1338 00:58:35,760 --> 00:58:32,860 this stuff and I said yeah I get it 1339 00:58:38,820 --> 00:58:35,770 there's no one I can talk to about this 1340 00:58:42,900 --> 00:58:38,830 stuff that's why I started skeptic oh 1341 00:58:46,350 --> 00:58:42,910 that's my real story so if you want to 1342 00:58:47,910 --> 00:58:46,360 connect connect skeptical websites get 1343 00:58:51,690 --> 00:58:47,920 to go forum face 1344 00:58:53,430 --> 00:58:51,700 book email connect how that's going to 1345 00:58:55,800 --> 00:58:53,440 do it for this episode have some good 1346 00:58:59,310 --> 00:58:55,810 ones coming up please stay with me for 1347 00:59:00,820 --> 00:58:59,320 all of that and until next time take 1348 00:59:08,640 --> 00:59:00,830 care bye for now 1349 00:59:19,790 --> 00:59:15,670 [Music] 1350 00:59:21,710 --> 00:59:19,800 so thanks for watching this video if it 1351 00:59:24,290 --> 00:59:21,720 wasn't really a video but just an audio 1352 00:59:25,880 --> 00:59:24,300 stored as a video I apologize but 1353 00:59:27,800 --> 00:59:25,890 there's more videos out there as well 1354 00:59:29,630 --> 00:59:27,810 but please check out the skeptic Oh 1355 00:59:30,980 --> 00:59:29,640 website you can see it here we cover a 1356 00:59:33,830 --> 00:59:30,990 lot of different stuff you might be 1357 00:59:37,130 --> 00:59:33,840 interested in relating to controversial 1358 00:59:40,550 --> 00:59:37,140 science and 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